[Cliffsnotes]

Here is the link to the Current League Rules: natecorbitt.proboards.com/post/279217/thread

I've numbered the sections in the League Rules. Items #1, 2, 3, 7, 8, and 10 should be pretty locked in. Speak up if there is anything in these sections to discuss.

I'll start a thread for each topic, if we have lots of conversation Hodgey or I will summarize and put it to a vote. If we don't have any conversation, Hodgey or I will make a decision and move on.



The big topic in the offseason was to change the rules so that players can cycle through the draft, as too many elite players were keepers this year. The side issue to this was drafting/retaining prospects, who are known to be unlikely contributors this year. Our previous conversations on this were under the assumption that Expansion to 14 teams may happen. Expansion is now off the table.

Regarding changes to keeper rules, no changes made this summer will affect the keeper lists or rules that are to be submitted for this year's draft. Keeper rules would apply to 2022 Keeper Lists. Players selected in the 2021 draft may see their eligibility change, depending on the rule changes.


This thread is regarding Goalies. After this discussion we can work backwards to roster sizes, keeper rules, and prospects.

After adding Seattle, the NHL will have 64 goalies: 32 starters, and 32 backups.

Currently we have a maximum of 4 goalies, or 48 on rosters. This is 100% of the starters and 50% of the backups, not counting injured players.

Of note: I looked up ESPN's current rules, and we cannot change from Individual Goalies to Team Goalies. I do like this idea, but we can't do it under the current format.


Options for changes include:
Eliminating using a Keeper slot on Goalies
Making it more difficult to use a Keeper Slot on Goalies (ie, either 1 G + 2 Skaters, or 4 skaters)
Decreasing Max Goalies on the Roster from 4 to 3
Adjusting Keeper eligibility / costs for goalies only (Goalie round is +3 instead of +2; goalies can only be kept in Rounds 7-18, etc.)

Please post your thoughts.

Cheers

[The Jewish Cunthead]

“Decreasing Max Goalies on the Roster from 4 to 3”

This is probably the easiest option to implement and would be my vote.

[DevSop]

And then we'd have to change the minimum number of starts to qualify for goalies each week.

Again, I don't think there's a real issue here with 4 rostered goalies. Maybe we can up the keeper cost for goalies but I don't love that either.

I guess I'd need a real good explanation why we're changing anything. As mentioned, we're no where near maxing out goalies compared to how many are in the league. Yes, it might need a bit more priority in drafting and keeping up with waivers, but that's part of the league.

[DevSop]

I did have an extreme idea if people really have some sort of issue with how goalies are allocated. They can’t be drafted in the regular draft. Instead, we’d have a secondary 3 round draft of just goalies with a random order. Keeper wise it could be defined as first round goalies can’t be kept, 2nd round goalies have a cost in the 6-10 range, 3rd round goalies have a cost in the 12-last round range. And then undrafted goalies have their usual cost.

[Cliffsnotes]

I started this topic based on responses of other people. Some did say 4 goalies is an issue. I think the bigger complaint seemed to be that too many good goalies were keepers, so draft options were slim.

I don’t think that having 4 goalies on your roster is a problem. But as Commish, wanted to make sure owners had a chance to consider it.

I think the consensus is that much fewer goalies were available in this years draft.

I would start with this: A goalie must be drafted to be eligible to be kept. It is not uncommon for a goalie to come out of nowhere to be a top 12 goalie the following year. Jordan Binnington is a recent example. If you invest a draft pick in a young player/prospect, that’s using the draft to build a long term investment. Waivers and Drop/Add should focus on the current year, not so much on obtaining a Roster Keeper.

[otfsquared]

I'd rather do +3 for all players than just one position. If we had to adopt one it would be only drafted goalies can be kept, but again would want that applied to all positions.

[Cliffsnotes]

After 2+ weeks, there hasn't been a lot of discussion on changing the Goalies. I'll make the decision here that we will stick with 4 goalies for this year. We will punt on keeper rules for goalies for a few days (or few weeks).