[DevSop]

It's the #1 overall facing the #4 overall. Which do you prefer, island mystery or sci-fi/horror drama? Or are you just going be a giant bitch and complain?

1)LOST


vs.


4)ANGEL

[The Jewish Cunthead]

No complaining here... Lost all the way.

[Lucky]

I like Angel. I think Moose is ridiculous. I think half this board are old fogies who are as bad as the kids who can't be bothered to watch the old classics. Angel probably isn't a top 15 drama, let alone 4. Lost has an actual case, warts and all.

[Jack Quinn]

you know what's ridiculous?

YOUR FACE!!!

Or something. Vote away, I don't care about the final four.

[Mikey]

mooseheadjack said:

Vote away, I don't care about the final four.

Yeah, these semis are fucking ATROCIOUS!

[creepy]

luckylopez said:

Angel probably isn't a top 15 drama, let alone 4.

Wow, I'm glad you think that Angel probably isn't a top 15 (of all time). Probably.

I know that Murder, She Wrote, and Matlock aren't going to win any awards, and that's cool, but Angel probably not being top 15? Really?




And Heroes has been on for two years and every one seems to think that the second year pretty much sucks so far, so one year puts it into the top 4? Probably top 2. Really?

And Lost has been on for 3 1/2 seasons and even you said it has some holes and gayness for some of the second and third seasons. So, Lost and Heroes are probably going to duke it out for best ever? Ever?

So, ER got knocked for having like, 14 seasons of which 7 underperformed and 7 were outstanding. So the bad outweighed the good. But half of a shitty season of Hereos gets forgotten about because one season is awesome? So, one "awesome" season makes something be a top drama of all time? Really?


I watch crap. A lot of crap. But even I know that shows like Hill Strret Blues, St. Elsewhere, ER, NYPD Blue, ETC.... were better than a show that's been on for 1 and a half fucking seasons where the one half sucks and the first season was great. And one season of another show was stellar whilst the other 2 or 3 seasons were mediocre. You guys are awesome. Homicide was better than all the top 4 combined, hands fucking down.







Save the world, Bitches!

[Courtney]

I agree with Creepy. How sad is that. I never agree with that bastard.

[williamssl]

creepyjackalopeeye said:

luckylopez said:

Angel probably isn't a top 15 drama, let alone 4.

Wow, I'm glad you think that Angel probably isn't a top 15 (of all time). Probably.

I know that Murder, She Wrote, and Matlock aren't going to win any awards, and that's cool, but Angel probably not being top 15? Really?




And Heroes has been on for two years and every one seems to think that the second year pretty much sucks so far, so one year puts it into the top 4? Probably top 2. Really?

And Lost has been on for 3 1/2 seasons and even you said it has some holes and gayness for some of the second and third seasons. So, Lost and Heroes are probably going to duke it out for best ever? Ever?

So, ER got knocked for having like, 14 seasons of which 7 underperformed and 7 were outstanding. So the bad outweighed the good. But half of a shitty season of Hereos gets forgotten about because one season is awesome? So, one "awesome" season makes something be a top drama of all time? Really?


I watch crap. A lot of crap. But even I know that shows like Hill Strret Blues, St. Elsewhere, ER, NYPD Blue, ETC.... were better than a show that's been on for 1 and a half fucking seasons where the one half sucks and the first season was great. And one season of another show was stellar whilst the other 2 or 3 seasons were mediocre. You guys are awesome. Homicide was better than all the top 4 combined, hands fucking down.







Save the world, Bitches!

[National Champion Chris Cole]

Just wrapped up rewatching Season 1 of Lost on DVD. Now more then ever over the past three weeks I'm ready to coronate Lost the Champion. Fantastic first season.

I know people have issues with the second season. I enjoyed it the first time through. I'm hoping I continue to enjoy it the second time through.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

creepyjackalopeeye said:

Homicide was better than all the top 4 combined, hands fucking down.

QUOTED FOR ABSOLUTE TRUTH.

[DevSop]

Keep whining bitches. I bask in your fucking whine.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

Can we just fast-forward to the end of this abortion? Lost is beating Heroes or Smallville.

[Lucky]

Jesus, Creepy's a lot more nasty than usual considering he didn't seem too vocal during this showdown.

Damn, man. I was arguing the St Elsewhere's and Hill Street Blues' from the beginning. I actually LIKE Angel and don't play to this Redneck idea that "vampires=gay" so yeah, after you put together the top 10 greats and classics I could MAYBE see Angel slipping in around 15. Even that might be a stretch but in the end the show was a detective drama for 3 years and crazy war story for the final 2. And I'm not gonna waste my fucking time trying to validate liking the show as anything more than guilty pleasure to people who basically refuse to even consider that anything that even CONTAINS a vampire in the plot could POSSIBLY be good.

And yes, the 1st seasons of Lost and Heroes are easily put up as some of the best TV in history. And for all of Lost's problems in the seasons that followed they've done a lot of good that people would put in. I've argued since Day One that quantity counts but quantity shouldn't just beat quality every time. Not in a showdown that included Twin Peaks.

Jesus Christ. I was about to argue with Dev about how there's no more whining in this showdown then there were in the others. But I think he's right. FUCKING CALM DOWN or go jerk yourself off to some shaky camera cop action. There hasn't been one showdown in this entire board's history that's went the predictable way. I've been horribly disappointed by half of them and hated the final four or whatever. And I think this 21st Century Fantasy representation is WAY off from what a Final Four of Network Dramas should be, even though you can make a case for them. But a more well rounded showdown would be nice? But it comes down to who we are. And clearly there's less cop show and ER show fans than there are people who enjoy the fantastic. That's not how a wider pool would vote. WOW! We didn't discover that shit out a fucking year ago!

Can we stop getting the dude who nominated Fall Guy in his top 5 whining about what horrible taste we have? Please? This is no more of a fucking travesty than Godfather falling in the 1st round.

[Krydor]

B...b...but the gay vampire show is so awesome! Didn't this pile of crap actually beat some legit dramas?

[williamssl]

Silly Krydor. The only legit dramas are on cable.

[creepy]

OK, Lucky. Fair enough. But when/if we have ever have a music showdown your thoughts will hold no validation. Since you like Limp Bizkit and all.



E: I forgot the Smiley Face.

[bigdonantonio]

Angel I suppose. As others have said this isn't a great final four

[Lucky]

Don't you like HIM, Creepy? You're out too.

[creepy]

Fair enough.

[Krydor]

williamssl said:

Silly Krydor. The only legit dramas are on cable.

So then this is the illegitimate drama showdown?

[williamssl]

Yes. We will call it Hornswaggle.

[DevSop]

11 whole votes. This showdown was completely necessary right now. Couldn't wait until March, nope had to run it now. People vote.

[Lucky]

In fairness, I'm not sure wait would have changed anything. You lose interest when you lower the field. And 4 films from the 21st Century just loses some people, especially 4 of a fantasy nature.

This may just be the ceiling of people who give a shit about these 4 shows. God knows I've ignored a few finals.