[The Canadian Content]

BTR's The Actmen: Wolverine, Ghost Rider (Danny Ketch), Shadowhawk, Dr. Manhattan, Vampirella, Lobo

Jobber's The Job Squad: Savage Dragon, Magik (Ilyana Rasputin), Black Panther, Mar-Vell, Crystal, Raphael

Vote up, bitches. Poll closes Wednesday at 4:30 Eastern.

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The Actmen

[Lucky]

I'm torn but with Wolverine and Doc Manhattan on one team it seems kind of inevitable to me. So I'm throwing my love Jobber's way because Black Panther deserves better. Not to mention Captain Marvel and Crystal and Magik are personal favorites.

[The Canadian Content]

Actmen

[Ultimatejobber]

This matchup makes me a little sad, as I like this team and is probably the best balance of my three.

[Batman]

But... it has a turtle in it.

[Ultimatejobber]

Apr 13, 2009 11:02:22 GMT -5 Batman said:

But... it has a turtle in it.

I absolutely don't regret that pick. Before the TNMT became cartoons, the comic was tongue in cheek and cool. Raphael was a bad ass unafraid to make himself heard. If this team is being brought down by a ninja turtle so be it...at least I didn't pick Leonardo. He's a douche.

[Batman]

No, don't get me wrong, I'm not judging you based on the Saturday-morning cartoon. The TMNT comics are fun. The turtles just don't fit well with a super-hero team is all.

[salmonjunkie]

I'm going to agree with Surge. I love the turtles, but it's still a weird part of the team, and Raphael's personality I can see working, but he's still a Ninja Turtle. I can't shake that out of my head. Having Savage Dragon there *almost* balances it out for that team, though.

BUT, I hate Ghost Rider in any kind of team. That never makes sense to me. Same for Lobo.

However, I love Wolverine in any kind of team. And Wolvie/Manhattan is a very interesting front 2.

You know, I was very close to going for a "Green" team consisting of Lantern, Arrow, She-Hulk, Braniac 5, Savage Dragon, and Raphael.

[DevSop]

Apr 13, 2009 11:27:21 GMT -5 Batman said:

No, don't get me wrong, I'm not judging you based on the Saturday-morning cartoon. The TMNT comics are fun. The turtles just don't fit well with a super-hero team is all.

I don't get how a turtle doesn't fit in with a super-hero team. As far as I know, the TMNT were all about fighting an evil mastermind and his henchmen. I'm not sure what's more heroic than that. And it's not like they don't work in a team concept since you know, they were a team and all.

Some of the choices in the draft really don't fit. I never would have thought a turtle wouldn't fit.

[Lucky]

Yeah, I'll join in. I like the Turtles fine. They're just weird on a team of heroes just like Howard the Duck would be. Its not the "hero" part that's the problem. Its the "turtle" part.

EDIT: They still got my vote because I actually really like Jobber's team and I'm not really sure I like Cory's team. Truth is I think the Actmen may end up being the biggest test of "popularity of individuals vs strength of team" we have in the tournament.

[DevSop]

I'm still voting for Actmen, cause I mean Wolverine and Manhattan. But it's not because of the turtle aspect at all.

[BTR]

Apr 13, 2009 12:05:01 GMT -5 Lucky said:

EDIT: They still got my vote because I actually really like Jobber's team and I'm not really sure I like Cory's team. Truth is I think the Actmen may end up being the biggest test of "popularity of individuals vs strength of team" we have in the tournament.

Yeah, I had reservations about putting this team together, but I love Watchmen and that comic has so many "What Ifs" in there that I wanted to explore some of them. "What If Manhattan led the Watchmen?" "What if Manhattan really cared about humanity?" "What if the Watchmen were made of Comedians?" So it's an interesting concept to me, at least.

I didn't want to make some bland Marvel team, which I could have done w/ Fantastic, Wolverine, She-Hulk, Rogue, and then anyone else because that didn't seem very appealing to me. So I don't expect to come close and win but I like this darkened version of Watchmen so I rolled with it.

[Lucky]

Yeah, no. I actually kind of like your story explanation. You clearly tried to come up with a way to connect them. I'm just not sure if I buy it. I don't know. But with 4 very popular characters I assume that the team would have support if you said that Vampirella bit them all and turned it into a team of vampires. So I appreciate you trying. I just don't know how much I buy the "Manhattan shows them why they must team together" thing and I'm not sure I ever really buy into that plot device in comics (See Serge's "Phantom Stranger says Daredevil will be key).

[salmonjunkie]

Apr 13, 2009 12:04:18 GMT -5 DevSop said:

I don't get how a turtle doesn't fit in with a super-hero team. As far as I know, the TMNT were all about fighting an evil mastermind and his henchmen. I'm not sure what's more heroic than that. And it's not like they don't work in a team concept since you know, they were a team and all.

Some of the choices in the draft really don't fit. I never would have thought a turtle wouldn't fit.

I get where you're coming from, but I think it's more that I can't see the Ninja Turtles be in a team that isnt the Ninja Turtles. They're totally heroes, they're totally team players, but that they're turtles, and moreso that they're brothers, makes it really hard to seperate them.

That's a big reason why, even though I had Raphael and Michaelangelo on my list, I never pulled the trigger on them. Michaelangelo almost made Team Tick, too.

But don't get me wrong, if I vote against Job Squad, it won't be because of Raphael. It'll be because of Ghost Rider and Lobo