[Lou]

I enjoyed season1. I thought season 2 sucked. I made it about 1/3 of the way through season 3 before I gave up. I can't decide if I want to waste the dvr space for the premier tonight. Anybody (Sop) hear anything I might look forward to this season?

[DevSop]

Sept 21, 2009 17:56:25 GMT -5 Lou said:

I enjoyed season1. I thought season 2 sucked. I made it about 1/3 of the way through season 3 before I gave up. I can't decide if I want to waste the dvr space for the premier tonight. Anybody (Sop) hear anything I might look forward to this season?

Hayden makes out with a chick?

Robert Knepper (T-Bag from Prison Break) is playing a major role.

It can't suck anymore than it already has?

My thinking would be don't expect much and you won't be disappointed from it. I'm nowhere near as interested as I was a year ago after seeing the premiere at comic-con. I didn't even try to go to the Heroes panel this year. I don't think the show will ever hit the peak/potential of season 1 but I do think there are worse ways to spend an hour (2 tonight) than giving Heroes a chance.

[Stu]

It's also got Ray Park as a knife wielding...sort of speedster, I think?

[Lucky]

Sept 21, 2009 17:56:25 GMT -5 Lou said:

I enjoyed season1. I thought season 2 sucked. I made it about 1/3 of the way through season 3 before I gave up. I can't decide if I want to waste the dvr space for the premier tonight. Anybody (Sop) hear anything I might look forward to this season?

This is almost exactly my sentiment. Luckily the presence of House, How I Met Your Mother, MNF, and even RAW meant Heroes is shit out of luck and not even entering the discussion tonight.

[BFG]

After watching season 3 on Blu Ray, I still hold firm that the show works better in chunks then watching week to week.

As far as season 4 goes...so far, so good. Lots of Noah, no Suresh = good times. And unlike season 2, the only new character who seemed annoying was killed early on. I'm sure all f the flaws were still there, but it kept me entertained for 2 hours.

[DevSop]

I'm not going to say it was good because the negatives still exist. I really would just like to run the show for a few minutes and try to get the show back on track. Hiro, Matt, and Peter really need to go. They just bring down the entire show.

For last night's episode:

Good-Noah, The Carnival (they'll be dead in a few weeks), and shockingly Tracy.
Bad-Hiro and his stupid code. Peter and his stupid stupidness. Matt and his whining.
Middle-Sylar/Nathan, Claire in college (even if jumping was as stupid as anything)

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I care. Recorded it last night. Watching it this evening.

Going into it with zero expectations, though.

[Stu]

Sept 22, 2009 13:01:52 GMT -5 DevSop said:

Peter and his stupid stupidness. Matt and his whining.

Eh? I actually found Peter more likeable than he's been in ages. He's not sitting around conflicted about who he is and what he might end up doing, and is actually trying to BE a Hero, and not in the bumbling way they keep making Hiro do it despite his power and supposed developments. Though since he worries about not being good enough and it makes him obsessive and lonely, that'll all be undone so we can go from "Heroes" back to "People Who Are Riding the Fence as to Whether They Have What it Takes."

Agree with you about Matt though. Fuck that guy.

[Sportsguy]

The good: NO MOHINDER!!!, Noah, Peter (Surprisingly), The Matt/Sylar dynamic, Tracy, The Carnival
The Bad: Sandra already shacking up with another guy, Claire's oh so annoying roommate before she died, Angela (usually one of my favorite characters), Danko's death

[DevSop]

Sept 22, 2009 15:27:42 GMT -5 Sportsguy said:

The good: NO MOHINDER!!!, Noah, Peter (Surprisingly), The Matt/Sylar dynamic, Tracy, The Carnival
The Bad: Sandra already shacking up with another guy, Claire's oh so annoying roommate before she died, Angela (usually one of my favorite characters), Danko's death

I'm not sure I can ever trust your opinion again when you put BOTH Matt and Peter in the good. Along with Hiro, seriously, three of the worst characters on a show. And I like Grunberg, but Matt is the worst of the bunch.

[Lucky]

For what its worth, the answer to this thread title is apparently "Barely half as many people as who cared last season."

www.thrfeed.com/2009/09/house-rises-heroes-falls-big-bang-tops-half-men-and-more.html

NBC ranked fourth, it's two-hour "Heroes" premiere (6 million, 2.7) free falling 46% from last year's one-hour opener. "Heroes" didn't face "House" last year, but this is nonetheless a troubling drop.

[BFG]

I think Heroes needs to be moved to a new night if NBC wants it to gain back viewers. Well that and a solid 3-4 weeks of being good. I mean given that FOX, CBS, and ABC all have big shows on Monday, you would think that NBC would use the night on something that cost less money to make then Heroes.

[BFG]

Sylar annoying Parkman was awesome.

The episode as a whole tough was a building block. Which is nice in that they are not trying to do a lot of "big" things all at once to try and grab ratings. Instead it looks like they are going to take their time to tell the story they want to tell.

Which could be good or bad depending on where the carny storyline goes.

[Stu]

Here's hoping Matt becomes a proper villain. The show could really use a shakeup like that.
Can't say I'm feeling the Claire storyline too much. I'm just waiting for the penny to drop of Gretchen having powers and being Claire's stalker or something. Any other explanation for someone being a pushy jerk when it comes to someone else's personal secret would just be horrible.
The Deaf woman thing was...different, but I'm not sure what it's going to accomplish. Is being able to see sounds really going to be that helpfull? She seems to be getting set up to be Pete's new love interest maybe.
Knepper continues to be an intriguing character, but does anyone have a clear idea of what his power is supposed to be? Telekinesis? Or movement of earth (which must be part of the ink her uses)?

[Demko]

It's totally earth control (which he explained this week, and showed last week, when he buried his brother). The ink only plays into that, because most ink is made up of minerals, which I would guess falls in under the earth category. Honestly, I love the concept, because it's a broad power that the guy has not only learned to use broadly, but has also chosen to specialize to a point.

[Deleted]

Yeah, power over the earth and its derivatives was my take.

Why the teen-show romantic music when Claire was sharing her secret with Gretchen?

The whole Parkman/Sylar dynamic is fucking awesome.

And the deaf woman being able to "see" sounds is an actual human oddity called "synesthesia" as the doctor mentioned to her. I saw a program about it on Discovery one day. There's a woman out there who "tastes" words she hears. Like if she hears the word "car" it might make her taste buds relay a taste of chocolate to her brain. Or hearing "kitten" may make her taste pickles. Either way, I really like that tie-in to real-world "super powers".

[Stu]

Sept 30, 2009 6:29:44 GMT -5 @gatorbait said:

Why the teen-show romantic music when Claire was sharing her secret with Gretchen?

Because (non-spoiler, since it's mentioned already) that's the chick Claire makes out with, though again, I expect it to be some form of power that makes it happen, rather than an actual bit of character development.

[Stu]

So...that's it cancelled. Can't say I'm shocked, or bothered. It's pretty much a mercy killing, though I was hoping the status quo change at the end of season 4 would have given the show a shot in the arm. Hopefully Quinto and the like can go on to do better stuff now.

[BFG]

I was hoping for a mini-run / made for TV movie to wrap things up...but it was time.

Mostly because the show wouldn't let characters stay dead, and refused to focus on HRG and a new company. HRG finding a new "Heroe" every week could have worked for a long time.

[OpTard]

pet peeve. i hate when people call him HRG.