[OpTard]

my biggest problem is though that there's no way clark wouldn't know someone else was in that room. super hearing anyone?

but then again, they've established fairly regularly that smallville clark is an idiot.

[Krydor]

It's not that far fetched, because Clark has been busted in this manner before. It's the same plot device that led Chloe to learn of Clark's secret.

[OpTard]

chloe was across the street. lana was behind a shelf in the same room. *I* probably would've noticed she was there, and i don't have the ability to hear her heartbeat.

[Lucky]

Eh, she wasn't moving around or anything. Clark was in conversation with Chloe and working on the door the entire time he was there. He wasn't there long and no reason to suspect someone was around. He was also distracted and having a bad day, and Chloe gave him something major to think about. He'd have to hear the sound of Lana breathing (when she was probably making a point to keep it low and slow) even while his mind was going a dozen different ways. I can forgive it.

Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you have those things working at their best all the time. The guy's worked to turn super hearing off so he doesn't invade everyone's privacy and drive himself insane. So is default status is to not be listening for heartbeats in the room.

That being said, the show didn't do a lot for me. I find Smallville isn't as exciting for me on a weekly basis. Heroes and Lost I wait for all week. Smallville's just a show I enjoy. Not a bad thing, just different and a bit surprising to me.

[OpTard]

i don't buy it really. training yourself to focus out idle chatter is one thing. we do it everyday on a smaller level as we focus out people close to us in a public place (like restaurant or something) so we can better hear the people we're talking to. but to not hear her footsteps as she walked over to get a better look at his heat vision would be the equivalent of us not hearing someone tromping along in workboots.

[Lucky]

I actually didn't notice her moving at all. I thought she ducked behind the bottles as soon as he showed up (when he was yelling to Chloe so I can excuse him not hearing her) and didn't move at all afterwards. Except maybe a slight shift while he was ripping the door off/reassembling it. I can excuse him not hearing over the sound of his own work in either case. But if she moved around then I'll concede the point to you. He should have noticed something.

I'm mostly willing to buy it because I'm just willing to accept that Clark is a bit of a rube and was all mopey that day. I mean, he darts in and out of rooms way too often for you to think he's that careful. Lana caught him because he was too stupid to consider that someone might be in the room that he's superspeeding into. As you said. Clark is dumb. And whiny. He was too self absorbed that day to be all Superman.

[Krydor]

He has X-Ray vision as well, yet he must focus his concentration to use it. When he first realized he had super hearing, he gained control and used it when he wanted. Lazers don't shoot out of his eyes, either.

It's all perfectly rational.

Lucky,

There are about 6 shows a season worth watching. First and last episode, and any one that shows someone from the DC universe or the original film.

[Deleted]

Thought it was a phenomenal episode. And this further solidifies in my mind that the only way for us to get to Lois & Clark is for Lana to die. And it'll probably be at the hands of Lex.

[Krydor]

Last night's episode was one of the best of the series so far. I actually found Lana interesting. The Clark/Lex interplay was brilliant. There's a doin's afoot.

Next week looks like shit.

[Krydor]

So, tonight we have Black And White Smallville Noir! It's all worth it, because we approach some Martian Manhunter season finale goodness.

2 more seasons of this show, Welling inked for season 8.

[OpTard]

that doesn't guarantee that it will make it that far. didn't lex already say he's done after this season?

[Krydor]

On board next season, he didn't sign for season 8. Done correctly, I could get my Live Action Justice League in eason 8.

Last night's episode, as predicted, was shit. Superpowered Lex looks awesomely fantastic next week.

[OpTard]

yeah. last night sucked.

super powered lex? i thought it was super powered army guy.

[Krydor]

Looks like Lex to me. Could be some sneaky editing, but I got the impression that it was Lex and the army guy with SUPAR POWARS.

[Krydor]

HOLY SHIT! BIZARRO! That is all.

[DevSop]

I had told myself that if Smallville killed off Chloe, I would be done with the show. This was after it took me a season to come back after the horrible decision to come back after they killed off Alicia.

Now, I'm not 100% sure Chloe is dead, because if she is, that's the dumbest way possible for her to go out. She gets her heart crushed again by Clark when he tells her Lana knows everything, and then her "power" is her tears can save, but they can only save once. Seems like a puss way of ending her story.

But, even if she's dead, I don't think I can follow-through on my statement of quitting the show because this season has been exceptional. From the Justice League to Clark becoming Superman internally, to Lana actually becoming the most interesting and complex character on the show after seasons of me wishing she'd just die. Lex also was phenemonal; especially in the recent ep when Clark was injured in the cave-in. The scenes between them were very well done.

The only negative I still have about the show is that Clark and Lana have so little chemistry that its tough to buy that as the all-encompassing love it's portrayed as. His chemistry with the other females though actually shines, as did Lana's in her few actually loving scenes with Lex.

[BC]

I posted on OO, but I'll do it again here. Chloe is definately dead. They needed to write her out at some point. Lana is NOT dead. She set it up to get away from Lex & to stop him by putting him in jail. The truck was her getaway. While she may never appear on the show again, she's not dead.

[Lucky]

I gotta say. I thought that fucking sucked something fierce? Bizaro? Aww, fuck you. Chloe possibly being dead in the lamest of fucking ways? REALLY fuck you. And the opening tease makes me half hope we get the perfect storm of Clark, Manhunter, AND Arrow's League coming together and instead all we get is Manhunter showing up to tell us he's gotta go. Man oh man, did I hate that episode.

And of course Lana's not dead. I wish she was. I so wish she was dead. I'm not with Dev. I still hate her. The character doesn't strike me as all that more complex. Its just a little more manipulative. And its been a little manipulative since the beginning and gotten more so with the weird reincarnation of a witch story. Blah. I have no use for her when she said she was leaving I REALLY hoped they were writing her ass out of the show like it seemed they might have been Martha Kent. Potentially lose Chloe and Lionel and keep Lana? Yeah, fuck that.

There's still Lex. And Green Arrow and the League. And Manhunter. And as Dev said, Clark becoming Superman internally. So I'm not going to be all "I'm not watching anymore." But that finale pretty much sucked a LOT of my interest and fandom of the show away. Even if Chloe's not dead that's such a fucking silly and stupid power and such a bad scene it horribly weakens her character. And I have no use for Bizaro. I mean, whatever. It won't cause me pain or anything but I'm not exactly excited to see Welling act against himself. Because his "mean Clark" character has always been sooooo much fun.

Just sucked.

And I see no reason why Chloe "has to die." Lets not fool ourselves. Smallville stopped playing with any existing continuity a long time ago. They've created their own world and continuity. I enjoy it. But Chloe and Lionel Luther can be alive and well in that world and Lana could be dead. Because last I checked Lana wasn't a witch in the comics. And I don't expect that Erica Durance and Kate Bosworth played the same characters. And we've all decided to ignore a couple of movies anyway, haven't we? And did I mention the cartoon version and a Supergirl movie? Who cares if Chloe was a character created by the show? Its in its own world now. Why the need to write out a character that's become majorly important just because she wasn't around 50 years ago? I mean, if you feel the need to do it for story purposes, great. But that was a horrible death if it was one. And if you did it just because she "had to die" to fit continuinity you've already bashed all to hell then you can kindly go fuck your idiotic selves.

[Krydor]

Sorry man, I liked the Bizarro thing. If past season premiers are any indication, the first 3 shows next season will kick unholy ass. Prior to this, the Justice Buddies were a match for Lex. Now they will not be, as Lex will have himself a superbeing.

Lionel isn't dead, Chloe isn't dead and Lana isn't dead. Lionel will be alive in episode one, Chloe in two and Lana in three. The Justice Pals show up in one, get their asses kicked in two and wreak terrible vengence in three.

Then, there will be a reset on episode 4.

[Lucky]

I don't actually hate Bizarro or anything. I just don't care. Welling's almost not a good enough actor for me not to care about his main character. Playing a 2nd character, blah. Especially when its probably just the same Kal El/red kryptonite character he's played in the past and which wasn't terribly interesting (at least to me). That's just me. Those end of the season "Oh my God, Clark has turned to the bad side and what will we do?! To Be Continued..." things have bored me so a slightly warped one where instead of the good actresses trying to bring Clark back we'll get Clark acting with Clark? Meh.

But if its going to be all out Arrow and the League included fight stuff when we come back, hey. That's why I got excited at the start of this episode. That finale just did nothing for me. And I really can't say I'm a fan of Smallville's approach of basically using the season finales as setup episodes and then using the first episodes back as the true story finales. If you "reset" on ep 4 that seems like a cheap play to me. You probably could have cut 1 or 2 WWE Guest Star episodes this season and slipped the REAL finale in. But whatever. That's TV.

I just didn't like the episode. That it was the finale that I have to wait I don't know how long for the new episode of. And that they at least teased killing off 2 characters I enjoy while raising a character I hate into an even MORE important role? My natural instict is to presume that Lionel and Chloe are not dead. Its a tease. But I'm not confident enough in Smallville to trust that. And stuff like BC's "they have to go" thinking worries me that they'll make a stupid decision for no good reason.

It also probably helps that I don't like Superman and never have and watching Superman vs Bizarro is very dull to me. But I'm a weird fan of the Superman show who hates Superman. So its not the first time I've dealt with this.

What can I say? I just didn't like that at all. As long as Chloe's not dead I'll get over the rest. I'm just worried she's dead in the lamest of ways. It fits. Writes her out of the continuity. Clark was all distracted about Lana and once again hurt her. Jimmy's absent. Lois had run off against her request and Chloe ends up suffering for it. It would be a perfectly appropriate pathetic death to a pathetic life.


I also want Tom Welling to shove a 9 inch dildo up my ass.

[Evil Scotty]

www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5838

Supergirl Flies Into Smallville
Source: The CW
June 11, 2007


Look, up in the sky: it's a bird, it's a plane! It's...Supergirl! This fall, Supergirl will be joining the lineup of burgeoning superheroes and villains in "Smallville." Supergirl is the latest DC Comics character to join the series that has previously welcomed Martian Manhunter, The Green Arrow, The Flash, Aquaman, Cyborg and Brainiac. Casting for the Supergirl role is currently underway. "Smallville" airs on Thursdays at 8:00-9:00 p.m. ET on The CW.

On "Smallville," the seventh season premiere kicks off with the arrival of Supergirl, whose name is Kara, as Clark's (Tom Welling) 19-year-old cousin. She was born on Krypton and is the daughter of Zor-El, Jor-El's brother. Kara possesses all of Clark's powers and one he doesn't yet have ?? she can fly! Kara also has a strong, rebellious streak that puts her at odds with Clark, and puts her onto Lex's (Michael Rosenbaum) radar. In addition, she takes a romantic interest in Jimmy Olsen (Aaron Ashmore).

"One of the joys of creating 'Smallville' has been our ability to reinvent and reinterpret classic DC Comics characters," said 'Smallville' executive producer Al Gough. "Miles and I believe that Supergirl will give our series the mythic jolt that it needs as we head into our seventh season."

Reinterpreting the Superman mythology from its roots, "Smallville" was developed for television by Alfred Gough & Miles Millar (Shanghai Noon, Spider-Man 2), based on the DC Comics characters. Gough and Millar serve as executive producers, along with Ken Horton, Kelly Souders & Brian Peterson, Todd Slavkin & Darren Swimmer, James Marshall, Mike Tollin, Brian Robbins and Joe Davola. The series is produced by Tollin/Robbins Productions, Millar/Gough Ink and Warner Bros. Television. Superman was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Schuster.

[DevSop]

I swear to christ almighty if this is there reasoning for killing Chloe, I'm going to be mighty pissed. Unless Kristin Bell is Supergirl at which point, WHOO HOO.

[Evil Scotty]

Supergirl Lands in Smallville.

People magazine has learned that Canadian actress Laura Vandervoort has been cast as Supergirl in The CW's "Smallville" and will start shooting with Tom Welling, Michael Rosenbaum and Aaron Ashmore next week in Vancouver.

"She's a combination of beauty, intelligence, a certain warmth, and great attitude," Smallville co-creator Al Gough tells the magazine. "We've wanted a character to shake things up. She may be Clark Kent's cousin, but that doesn't mean she's going to be the obedient one!"

Supergirl will be introduced to viewers as Kara, Clark's cousin, who was born on Krypton and has all of Clark's powers plus the ability to fly. Watch for her to spark romance with Jimmy Olsen (Ashmore) as well.

[Evil Scotty]

Here's Laura Vandervoort as Supergirl
Source: The CW
July 21, 2007


The CW has provided Superhero Hype! with this photo of Canadian actress Laura Vandervoort in character as Supergirl for "Smallville." Supergirl will be introduced to viewers as Kara, Clark's cousin, who was born on Krypton and has all of Clark's powers plus the ability to fly.

click the pic for the article.

[Lucky]

She's hot, if nothing else. But it really feels like Chloe's dead. And fuck Smallville for not only doing that for no good reason but by doing it in the least fulfilling or dramatic way possible. I don't even feel that interested in watching after that bullshit.

Of course the first time someone says "Justice League" I'll get excited again, but still.