Just got back from it and it's a definite must see. Smart and complex, but also with it's share of fun and kick-assness, and some jaw-dropping set pieces.
And there's already a topic about it here...so fuck you!
It was great, but I was a smidge disappointed in it. I'd put it on par with The Prestige, but I love that movie, so I'm not trying to knock Inception. I was just expecting a little more imagination and a little less exposition. But aside from that, I thought it was excellent.
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Post by Beer Baron on Jul 21, 2010 13:42:18 GMT -5
I really dug it throughout the entire film. Had me captivated, until some dumb random chick's phone went off next to me with a text alert. That knocked me out of the movie's grip for a few minutes. The ending was pretty sweet and I'm still wondering about it. May see it again, and will mos def buy it when it's on dvd.
It was great, but I was a smidge disappointed in it. I'd put it on par with The Prestige, but I love that movie, so I'm not trying to knock Inception. I was just expecting a little more imagination and a little less exposition. But aside from that, I thought it was excellent.
Completely this.
Plus I have problems with every "interpretation" that is out there.
Finally saw this. I have four questions. Maybe I just missed something.
1.) When making a dream set, why wouldn't the chick put an arsenal and medical supplies in the warehouse where they were going to set up the next dream sequence? Why not have it even if you don't need it? You know, "just in case". I doubt Fischer woulda thought "Really? They have some guns and meds at their warehouse safehouse? This just has to be a dream." 2.) How did Saito and Cobb get out of Limbo? Cobb just gave Saito a choice and then *snap!* They woke up fine and dandy /*snap* 3.) Did everyone in that world know about this dream manipulation stuff? Because a few people just accepted it like it was ok. Especially Fischer. Rich dude is in a room with some guy telling him stuff about dreams and then weird stuff happens in the room like 1) it rains, 2) people look at them 3) the water shifts in the cup 4) the guy talking finishes your sentences and knows about your wallet, etc....... Wouldn't the rich guy think that this is an elaborate trick of some sort by rivals or con-men before he just decides to say "fuck it, give me those drugs, I'll go to sleep in your room at your total control". That kind of threw me. 4.) Didn't they say that JG-Ls character had 3 minutes to get out of his dream sequence while they had 16? So he went downstairs, took out the detonators, fought a guy, went back upstairs, tied up every person in the room together, took them all to the elevators, opened the elevator ceiling, shimmied up the rope and cut it, went underneath the elevator and placed the detonators, got back in the elevator and then braced himself all in 0 gravity. Am I missing something? And the van thing was dumb. When you can say however much time each dream takes, then why not stretch out the van dream sequences time frame so it doesn't look like a slow-mo 80's A-Team action sequence? You know, they show it roll off and then cut to the other dreams and then 5 minutes later, it had moved 2 feet and then they cut to another dream sequence for 6 minutes and then cut back to it and it moved 3 more feet and then cut to a dream for 4 minutes and then cut back and it moved 7 feet and.......
I liked a lot of it, but just thought certain aspects of it were confusing. I guess I just didn't get it.
Plus, Leo's wife thing bugged me. Let it go, Leo. Let it go.
1) I think you sort of answered your own question there. They weren't expecting his mind to have been trained THAT well already (i.e. a fucking TRAIN roaring down the middle of the street). They were just taking him to the place to "torture" the information out of him. On top of that, aside from controlled simulations, Ariadne had no experience with an outsider's dreams, and it's easy to figure she just didn't think to put those things there. Granted, Cobb and the others should've mentioned to her that it would be a good idea to have those things there, so I'll give you that.
2) I'll have to come back to this one later. The "key" to escaping limbo, though, is remembering that you're actually still in a dream.
3) That was part of Cobb's con. Pretending that he was the agent there to PROTECT Fischer since he knew Fischer would pick up on it, anyway. Or maybe I'm missing your question, here.
4) The slo-mo van falling was actually one of my favorite touches from Nolan in the movie. Kind of cut back and forth throughout the later clips to remind you of how many different levels this is all taking place on. Yes, that was a lot for Arthur to accomplish in 3 minutes, but he has been well-trained in these sorts of situations. And the zero-gravity environment would make it a lot easier for him to wrangle those people up like that.
3.) Did everyone in that world know about this dream manipulation stuff? Because a few people just accepted it like it was ok. Especially Fischer. Rich dude is in a room with some guy telling him stuff about dreams and then weird stuff happens in the room like 1) it rains, 2) people look at them 3) the water shifts in the cup 4) the guy talking finishes your sentences and knows about your wallet, etc....... Wouldn't the rich guy think that this is an elaborate trick of some sort by rivals or con-men before he just decides to say "fuck it, give me those drugs, I'll go to sleep in your room at your total control". That kind of threw me.
The dream manipulation technology isn't publically known, it started out as a secret training method for the army but once it got exploited for use in industrial espionage, it seems a lot of important businessmen made it their business to be prepared for it, but not to try to make it something that everyone knew, in case they ever had cause to hire someone to use those methods themselves. Fischer was one of them. The issue with the con Cobb was pulling wasn't whether Fischer believed all the dream stuff, but if he believed Cobb was really a part of his subconscious and not the intruder.
Thanks, guys. I thought the way they were talking about it that the Dream stuff was known by those in the know, so when they saw he militarized his dreams they knew he knew about the dream manipulation stuff. I just dont know why they didn't assume he already knew. And I know that was JG-L's screwup, but dang, I'd just assume. The chick? Assume she wouldn't know. Some highup business guy that's vulnerable to his father? I'd assume his father would make him know all that stuff just in case. Dad seemed like a bitter, smart guy in that respect that wouldn't let his dumbass son jeopardize his company by falling for the dream manipulation stuff.
I liked the cutting back between dreams, too. Thought that was cool, I just didn't like how the van moved so slowly when they can set the time frames up because they made up this dream manipulation stuff.
screenrant.com/inception-sequel-cast-rob-102580/ Turns out the cast were signed for potential sequels, which Nolan is open to, but there's nothing actually planned as of right now. I dunno. While I'd like to see more stories about mind-heists and such, it did seem like the first film was meant to be standalone and be open ended.