[jetskid48]

Derf flaked, and I refuse to let wrestling discussion die here.



DISCUSS!

[creepy]

I'm only going to be positive.

Let's see.......

I like Trevor Murdoch.

I think I like John Cena. Kinda.


I think......Yeah....I think that's it.

[Lucky]

Beth FUCKED Melina up! And I found it odd that Jillian was hanging over her like a male wrestler's sweet girlfriend.

If you watch Mickie when Cena's music hits... she looks back to watch Cena's entrance and she's got this look on her face that says "THAT guy is going to fuck me silly tonight." Just struck me. And yet Cena will go out with her to say hi to her brother? Did I miss a double entendre?

I think I've already forgotten the rest of RAW. What the fuck is with all the singing?

Is RAW gay?


Oh, so HHH is suspended for the PPV?

[creepy]

Match was over before H came out.

I missed the Melina fuck-upping.

Maybe Cena wants to fuck Mickie's brother?

SPOILER: Click to show

Maybe Raw is gay.

[Demko]

May 13, 2008 2:18:57 GMT -5 Lucky said:

And yet Cena will go out with her to say hi to her brother? Did I miss a double entendre?

Go back and watch again, I'm pretty sure he was staring straight at her tits when he said there are exactly two reasons why I'll go out with you guys tonight.

[Ultimatejobber]

Beth entered my top six for the beatdown on Melina. That was BAD ASS. Also loved Shawn Michaels and kicking the teeth out of Jericho and delivering a terrific line right after. I ate it up. I thought Raw was pretty good this week, despite an obvious main event.

[Concrete TG]

I was at the show last night and really enjoyed myself. Had second row on the ramp, right on the ramp (so I know I got on camera a couple of times )

Arena was pretty full, decent crowd.

Dark/Heat Matches:
Ron Killings d. Nic "The Natural" Nemeth: Killings came out to music pretty close to his TNA stuff and got the crowd into the "What's up" thing he did there. Killings danced a little more than he wrestled.

Hacksaw Jim Duggan beat local talent CK3. CK3 is one of the better heel workers I've run into in the MI/OH wrestling scene. Not a complete squash.

Paul Burchill and Katie Lea d. Super Crazy. This was a squash, no questions asked. Crazy got in maybe 3 offensive moves. Crowd wasn't into this one.

Londrick d. Charlie Haas/Robbie MacAllister: No Luchaman tonight, sadly. After the match, Spanky grabbed a mic and said something about actually being on tv soon.

As fr the show....

-Cena got mostly positive responses tonight. I heard very little dissention in the crowd when he was out there at the beginning of the show.

-Matches tonight were mostly "This bout, scheduled for one fall, is for storyline advancement only." Mostly 3-5 minute deals to kill time before we see why we're having this segment.

-I had a "Raw_is/Jericho" cartoon sign up, and Jericho acknowledged it as he walked down the ramp for his segment.

-Video packages during commercial breaks were the usual fare - WWE 24/7, Tribute to the Troops, Smackdown your vote(with clips of the candidate speeches from a few weeks ago), Jeff Hardy's "Rooftops" video, and Judgment day previews. Todd Grisham did Sign of the Night and Jillian Hall did Kiss Cam. I think the only new video was an Umaga video package that might have actually made tv.

-During Jeff Hardy's promo I noticed the HDTitantron got blurry as well. Don't think that made it to air.

-The Cade/Murdoch breakup was met with a decent round of indifference. I was glad to see Cryme Tyme live.

-Crowd was HUGE into the Cena/Orton main event. A lot of us on the web may hate these guys but I certainly heard why they had the main event. Lowering the cage during the schmozz at the end was really cool. At the very end of the show when Hunter was on top of the cage, he was holding on for dear life because the cage was still not completely secured. We could see it wobbling a bit while he was up there.

After the cameras stopped rolling: Triple H climbed down from the cage, only to see Orton walking back down the ramp with JBL and Umaga in tow. The three of them block hunter in, but of course the EVIL DR LEVESQUE has backup.

Crowd pops huge for the DX Anthem and HBK comes dancing down the ramp. They pop just as big, if not bigger, when Cena's music hits for the third time tonight and he joins them in the cage. Match is a straight up six-man tag, pinfalls only, apparently.Faces do a couple of cage spots then all hit their finishers at the same time for the win. DX then does their "Let's get ready to Suck it" routine, complete with several stalls:

-HHH wanted Cena in the sequence and apparently Cena forgot exactly how to do it

-"For the thousands in attendance, and the millions watching at home... wait, what time is it? 11:20? Sorry.... for the Millions NOT watching at home..."

-"And for poor poor JR, still sitting his desk after two and a half hours of RAW, I'm sure he'd like to head backstage at some point before we start talking about waterfalls and leaky faucets..." (HBK says something to Hunter)"Oh,you need to go too? Okay..."

They finish out the routine, then the three of them slap hands and do the DX pyro salute at the top of the ramp to send people home happy.

[Sparty]

R.I.P "HEY!"

2004-2008

[bdoriginal]

Not a bad show last night.

Easily the highlight of the show for me was Beth fuckin' Melina up. She just brutalized her in a way you don't see too often against actual wrestlers.

I probably shouldn't have been, but I was amazed at how over Jeff still is. That crowd was going nuts for him during the beatdown.

Still loving Mickie, one of the few times I'm actually jealous of Cena.

There were matches on this show but for the life of me, I couldn't tell you exactly who fought except for Cade/Murdoch vs Cryme Tyme since JTG has the charisma of five men and I actually wanted to hear Murdoch sing again. And of course the main event.

I'm pretty apathetic to both guys because I don't watch PPVs so I don't have the "wow they really turn it up" perspective to go with, so the main event did nothing for me. I wanted more of an a JBL shit-kicking though.

Overall, no real complaints. Doesn't make me excited for Judgement Day, but then, that's more my fault then theirs since I'm not a big fan of any of the matches other than HBK/Y2J, and even then I'm only marginally looking forward to that because Jericho hasn't really wowed me since he's been back.

Someone explain this to me though since I've only caught bits and pieces of SmackDown recently (believe it or not, there are actually females that don't mind being with me on a Friday night).

Taker got stripped of the title right? Then why is he in the title match? What fuckin' sense does that make?

[Ultimatejobber]

Taker was stripped by Vikki for showing no remorse over the damage he had done to other wrestlers with his new choke finisher. Vikki then banned the move from that point forward. The next week Vikki declared that she wanted to be fair to Taker as the former champ, so he would have the chance to win his belt back at Judgement Day. She then announced that Taker's opponent would be determined by a tournament that Edge won.

[bdoriginal]

Okay, now it makes sense. But it's stupid. Why strip a guy of the belt, then turn around and give him a shot at the belt a week after stripping it from him, especially if it's in the interest of someone close to you for someone else to end up with the belt. Edge has lost two straight times to Taker. As his fiance, wouldn't you strip the guy your man can't beat and make it near impossible for him to get back to the title for any forseeable time in the future?

I read a recap of this past week's SmackDown where someone pointed out that instead of doing something different and having someone else win the battle royal, they did the "ultimate opportunist" thing and had Edge win, which normally I wouldn't mind if this wasn't the third straight month of him vs Undertaker. Maybe that's why I'm not a huge fan of WWE right now? I mean, I don't want storyline's being rushed, but the same two guys fighting three times in actually less than the same amount of months seems wrong to me.

[jetskid48]

May 13, 2008 10:57:10 GMT -5 Sparty said:

R.I.P "HEY!"

2004-2008

Too many new themes too soon.

And possibly the worst new theme I've heard ever. (But I'm sure other's can think of worse new themes.)

Now Mercy Drive has nothing in life. Ha!...I mean, HEY!

[jetskid48]

May 13, 2008 12:53:09 GMT -5 bdoriginal said:

Okay, now it makes sense. But it's stupid. Why strip a guy of the belt, then turn around and give him a shot at the belt a week after stripping it from him, especially if it's in the interest of someone close to you for someone else to end up with the belt. Edge has lost two straight times to Taker. As his fiance, wouldn't you strip the guy your man can't beat and make it near impossible for him to get back to the title for any forseeable time in the future?

I read a recap of this past week's SmackDown where someone pointed out that instead of doing something different and having someone else win the battle royal, they did the "ultimate opportunist" thing and had Edge win, which normally I wouldn't mind if this wasn't the third straight month of him vs Undertaker. Maybe that's why I'm not a huge fan of WWE right now? I mean, I don't want storyline's being rushed, but the same two guys fighting three times in actually less than the same amount of months seems wrong to me.

No one should agree with my defeatest mindset here, but I've learned never to complain about getting the same thing again after seeing a title get vacated after living through Randy Orton being handed a belt and THE GREAT KHALI FUCKING BECOMING A WORLD CHAMPION.

John Cena got a pop last night. Because he's been gone? Because they found the perfect combination of heels to contrast him? Because they let him saving ;( Mickie James? Those Detroitians...probably winning the cup sure makes you guys jolly.

I too enjoyed Melina getting fucked up horribly. That's the type of aggression Beth the Monster should have. It also makes it quite unbelievable for Mickie to withstand that if Beth is that out of control. I guess that's why its Mickie v. Beth v. Melina at Judgement Day...so Melina can eat Mickie pin.

One more RIP, to the best old school tag team the WWE had, Cade and Murdoch. I miss you guys already.

Hardy's back. I hope they got him a chaperon this time.

Can't believe Piper didn't turn on Team Charisma nor Cantino didn't win the belts. What the hell?

HBK + Jericho is pure greatness. Even if Jericho has started to dress like The Rock had he been emo.

[Riot Act]

I just wanted top pop in and say that Orton's new theme is fucking horrednous. That is all.

[franklloydwright]

I had to laugh when Jeff Hardy gave the good old "Man its great to be back"! You would never have gone anywhere dumbass, if you could keep your s**t straight! I am surprised Vince did not job him out. P.S. nice to see all the refugees again!!!!

[Mr. Dashbee]

I only saw small parts of RAW, and don't have it on the DVR. Yet I've seen all of what everyone is referring to, save for the Cade/Murdoch break-up. What does it say about RAW that I can watch a little bit of it and see all the good stuff?

I love Mickie James, btw.

[jetskid48]

May 13, 2008 16:16:17 GMT -5 Mr. Dashbee said:

What does it say about RAW that I can watch a little bit of it and see all the good stuff?

That you actually watched the whole thing?

[Jack Quinn]

well that would be true if the whole thing was good



it wasn't, not to me anyway

[Lucky]

Probably that he's developed the ability to tune out when its clearly bad and tune back in when good things are developing. Its like in school when you managed to perfect daydreaming but paying JUST enough attention that you knew what was being talked about if you were called upon.

Or he's lucky.

May 13, 2008 7:15:44 GMT -5 Demko said:

May 13, 2008 2:18:57 GMT -5 Lucky said:

And yet Cena will go out with her to say hi to her brother? Did I miss a double entendre?

Go back and watch again, I'm pretty sure he was staring straight at her tits when he said there are exactly two reasons why I'll go out with you guys tonight.

I caught that but then when he delivered the "Your brother is a big fan... and your brother is a big fan." line it just didn't see to fit. Maybe it was just an iffy delivery or him trying to make the line not TOO obvious but then ending up with something that sounded totally innocent. I don't know. Just struck me as odd.


bd, once again we are of the same mind. I had the same questions about SD and Vickie's easy inclusion of Taker this weekend. You'd think she'd at least make Taker qualify like everyone else. Her actions actually seem like the actions of a pretty fair GM. Taker WAS using an illegal choke, Taker DID show complete disregard for his opponents, and she WAS fair to him by putting him right into the match. He handling of Edge was obviously the work of a heel making the entire tourney/BR process pointless but it really did strike me as odd that she just put Taker in against her boyfriend without any fight. I presume she'll add some kind of stip that she believed gives Edge an advantage this week... but it felt odd last week.

[jetskid48]

May 13, 2008 17:23:23 GMT -5 Lucky said:

Or he's lucky.

Jokes are no longer funny to me.

[creepy]

May 13, 2008 16:03:12 GMT -5 franklloydwright said:

I had to laugh when Jeff Hardy gave the good old "Man its great to be back"! You would never have gone anywhere dumbass, if you could keep your s**t straight! I am surprised Vince did not job him out. P.S. nice to see all the refugees again!!!!

I was playing a trivia game the other day and Frank Lloyd Wright was an answer. I wondered where you had gone. Or if you were dead. We need more Texans around here.

[franklloydwright]

Creepy, always remember, you cannot keep a "Good Texan" down for long. ;D

[Batman]

"Good Texan"...

That's code for "white," right?

[jetskid48]

May 16, 2008 11:26:19 GMT -5 franklloydwright said:

Creepy, always remember, you cannot keep a "Good Texan" down for long. ;D

Ah, I guess its not roids that give Clemen's the power to come back every year...its being a Texan.



...unless of course its the roids that keep all Texans going...hmmmmmm...

[franklloydwright]

Ah....Skids, it is nice to know that you still have the ability to throw a monkey wrench into every thread. And Sergei, lets leave the southern stereotypes at the door and talk about wrestling.