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am i right or am i right or am i right?

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apparently at C2E2 they've confirmed that it is, and that nova is the final teased member of the secret avengers, making the team rogers, nova, moon night, valkyrie, war machine and beast.

[The Canadian Content]

Apr 16, 2010 9:51:49 GMT -5 OpTard said:

apparently at C2E2 they've confirmed that it is, and that nova is the final teased member of the secret avengers, making the team rogers, nova, moon night, valkyrie, war machine and beast.

Damn. That's just crazy enough to work.

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i'm not a huge deodato fan, but with brubaker writing i'm sure it'll be great.

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I like that costume for Rogers. I wonder if he's going to stay dead to the public.

I've never read an Avengers story with Beast in it. This lineup does sound interesting.

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I say we all submit pics of Solly for this:

www.comicvine.com/news/are-you-an-avenger/140926/

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I dunno about that ending we got. Doesn't it render the whole split over opinion on Registration utterly pointless if it's not an issue once Registration is gone? Everyone is pals again despite all the fighting they did, and the people who were pro-registration aren't bothered that it gets dropped? And didn't Cap only surrender at the end of CW because he felt that he needed to WIN THE ARGUMENT about registration, not the physical fight? How is he doing that by making the law get thrown out simply by making it a condition for running SHIELD?

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a) there have been quite a few scenes in comics leading up to siege showing that the current president wasn't totally behind the registration act, so that was on its way to begin with.

b) who's to say he made that condition anyway? all he was was "if i'm gonna do this job, i'm gonna do it my way." why is anything wrong with that? that seems like a very reasonable "condition." if he didn't like the job in it's current form why would he take it? i really don't understand your objection.

i liked siege. the only issue i had with the ending was that they didn't thrown any surprises into it at all. with secret invasion you may have thought the heroes would win, you may have thought the skrulls would win, but no one thought it would end with orborn head of SHIELD. this ended exactly as you thought it would, osborn out, reg act gone, sentry dead, cap head of SHIELD. if secret warriors was being canceled i might've been unsure about cap or fury taking over, but since it wasn't i was 98% positive. so that's it. zero surprises.

that being said, while the outcome was a forgone conclusion, i really enjoyed the ride. i give it a thumbs up.

and no, everyone's not pals again. they're doing a whole series called "Avengers prime" about cap, iron man and thor hashing shit out, which takes place between siege and avengers #1 (fishy's head will explode. i'm pretty sure this is a bi-monthly series, so when issue 5 comes out, avengers will be on issue 10 while taking place before issue 1. OMG WHAT~!?).

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Whoever did the Siege writeup on ComicVine needs to be shot. About 80 lines with no paragraph breaks, at all. Fucker.

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May 13, 2010 22:06:01 GMT -5 OpTard said:

a) there have been quite a few scenes in comics leading up to siege showing that the current president wasn't totally behind the registration act, so that was on its way to begin with.

b) who's to say he made that condition anyway? all he was was "if i'm gonna do this job, i'm gonna do it my way." why is anything wrong with that? that seems like a very reasonable "condition." if he didn't like the job in it's current form why would he take it? i really don't understand your objection.

a) I don't know how US law works, so I asked a friend about if the President could do away with a law that he didn't like, and he said not if it was an established law, but he could talk to congress to get them to do away with it. But that raises the question of believability. Would a guy who struggled quite a bit just to pass a bill to reform healthcare be able to talk those same people into throwing out an existing law that for the most part was working and supported?
b) The cut from "I'm going to want to do it my way" to the announcement the act was thrown out really strongly suggested to me that was Steve's doing. I think the Registration act is a big part of why Steve WOULDN'T take the job, as he'd have to enforce it, which goes against his belief that it's wrong.

But either way I'm just annoyed that Registration got done away with so easily when Marvel insisted during Civil War that they were trying to make it so that both sides of the argument were valid (while doing everything they could to make Pro-Reg hard to side with due to the methods they used and making Anti-Reg the brave underdogs), so this was one more nail in that coffin.

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May 13, 2010 22:06:01 GMT -5 OpTard said:

b) who's to say he made that condition anyway?

Rogers confirms that he made that a condition of taking the job in the NA Finale one-shot.

and no, everyone's not pals again. they're doing a whole series called "Avengers prime" about cap, iron man and thor hashing shit out, which takes place between siege and avengers #1 (fishy's head will explode. i'm pretty sure this is a bi-monthly series, so when issue 5 comes out, avengers will be on issue 10 while taking place before issue 1. OMG WHAT~!?).

My head is unblowupable. But yeah, it's going to bug me.

Possible minor spoiler re: everyone being cool with each other:

SPOILER: Click to show

At some point somewhere in Siege (whether it was in the main book or in Thor or Iron Man), Thor offered Tony anything he wanted from the Asgardian treasury to help him rebuild. Tony was taken aback and asked why Thor would do that, given the "unfinished business" between them, and Thor said it was a gesture to get their relationship moving in the right direction, but that by no means were they done hashing things out.

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I've also wondered how Sue Storm got back together with Reed after Civil War, when she specifically leaves him during it because of what he does for the Pro-Reg side. Anyone?