[Loki]

I know that in other threads people are bandying forth ideas for new showdowns (like best artist), so I'm starting a new showdown thread so the old ones won't get cluttered with off-topic topics. Plus I have a few ideas for showdowns and I wanted to know if anyone else thought they'd be worth the time.

Idea 1 - Best Event:

We'll all seen some great events that have had us talking for months or years afterwards and/or have dramatically affected beloved characters. Robin dying at the hands of the Joker. Aunt May discovering Peter was Spider-Man. Superman dying. Supes and Spidey getting married (not to each other, thankfully). Secret Wars II. Hal killing the GL Corps. Identity Crisis. Which one is the "best"?

Idea 2 - Lamest Event:

The creme de crap. Ideas or story arcs that were so bad they've been ridiculed, ignored or retconned out of history. Spoiler as Robin. Maximum Clonage. Anything by Devin Grayson. The numerous also ran X-spinoffs. The Hobgoblin being reanimated by the Beyonder to kill Spider-Man. Batman forgiving Hal in JLA/Spectre: Soul War. The New Warriors coming back as gangbanger-beating fighters. Rob Liefeld's "Wonder Girl with a Package". The Kingdom. Things that were so soul-crushingly awful that you wondered why you wasted your money.

[Ryan Who Loves Punk]

Maybe best alternate dimension sorta story? Such as DC's old elseworlds and Marvel's old what if? series.

MODIFY: also Loki is gay and i'm smiting him. Dude, we can't have a feud if you don't fight back.

[williamssl]

There's about 5 other threads where this stuff is being talked about, but I picked the first one I found to post in. We're coming to a close on the current showdown. There are a lot of great comic/superhero ideas floating around for what's next.

Pun and I were instant messaging and he brought up the possibility of doing something based on THIS THREAD.

Specifically (and this is me talking now, building on Pun's idea)...let's take a short break from the comic/superhero thing and do a whimsical "What's the Greatest Cartoon/Kid's Show EVER?" There is not one person who reads/posts here who couldn't very actively participate in it. Even Ryan...who's just getting started watching these age-appropriate shows. So people nominate the He-Man's, Sesame Streets, etc etc etc and we have at it. This doesn't need to run 2-3 mos - top 8 get in...and we're probably done in a month, month and a half tops.

This wouldn't be taking the place of anything we've suggested...just doing something a little different for a brief period.

Reaction? And if you shit all over this, that's fine. Just remember you're shitting all over Pun's idea

[williamssl]

haven't had a reaction to this....but haven't had a bad reaction to this either.......

[Loki]

Bump bump bumpity bump bump bump.

I hadn't noticed your post until I saw the header on the main page. I'm all for it. I think it's a great idea.

If you want, I can do this one as you've done all the others. Give you a break, and whatnot.

[williamssl]

I will GLADLY take you up on that. I'm going to be doing quite a bit of business travel in the next couple months so you running it would be very very helpful. Plus, some fresh blood and ideas infused into the mechanics of it is never a bad thing, and will give me a chance to recharge for whatever's next (the ladies, best TV/onscreen character adaption, etc.)

I'm happy to answer any questions you have or provide feedback on thoughts, so PM me with any of that. And we'll probably need Pun or OpTard to give you (gasp) moderator status so you can do things like lock polls, sticky threads so they stay at the top of forums, etc. When we first started the Superhero Showdown I had to keep bugging OpTard with requests to do these things and he quickly and wisely gave me mod powers over the Superhero Guest House so that I could do this shit myself.

So....have at it, and thanks again!

[The Canadian Content]

Loki: the Mod of Mischief.

I like the TV Showdown idea. It's always fun to talk about retro shit.

[Loki]

Sweet.... I'll get Mod powers.... so, can we have a formal cermeony or something? Where I'm knighted and given the sacred sword of Mod-dom? Or will this be done in secret, like the incident with Ryan sitting on his Uncle's lap that the Uncle paid Ryan 20 bucks to keep quiet about?

[williamssl]

If Pun or OpTard DOES grant you mod powers, just brace yourself for all the bad things that are said about Gimmickman in the Staff Housing forum.......

[salmonjunkie]

Cartoon showdown works for me. Transformers will win it all.



Can we have a showdown about samurai?

[The Canadian Content]

salmonjunkie said:

Cartoon showdown works for me. Transformers will win it all.

While Transformers did rock an awful lot, it's going to have some competition in the form of G.I. Joe, He-Man, and maybe even Thundercats or Voltron.

[OpTard]

thundercats doesn't hold up

[williamssl]

Land of the Lost, baby. Marshall, Will, and Holly are gonna go sleestack on the competition's asses.



EDIT: Great resource for stuff HERE.

[The Canadian Content]

operationretard said:

thundercats doesn't hold up

True, it seems pretty preachy in retrospect. But it was pretty awesome when I was 8.

[Loki]

Okay all - questions for everyone about the Cartoon Showdown.

Tex kept the showdowns to the top 8 on each side, for a total of 16.

I was thinking of keeping the Sweet Sixteen style motif for this one, because coming up with 16 shows is easy.

So, question #1) Do you all feel that 16 shows is too much? Too little? Or just right?

Question #2) Does everyone want this to be about cartoons only? Or do we make this a "kid's shows" so that we can throw in shows like "Land of the Lost"?

Statement #1 - if you all decide to keep this as cartoons only, I plan on including computer animated shows as well, so all you fans of "Beast Wars" and "War Planets" won't feel left out. Besides, there aren't really enough popular computer animated shows out there to warrant a separate category.

[The Canadian Content]

1. I could come up with 16, but there's no guarantee that everyone would know them all. I think maybe 8 would be better, as this showdown relies on having seen the shows. With the fairly wide age range we've got, the people on the ends of the spectrum have entirely different experiences with these shows.

2. I'm down with all kids' shows.

[salmonjunkie]

16 is fine.

I'm more for cartoons, but I can go either or. Actually, children's shows would include Muppets, Sesame Street, and all that, so I don't know if that gives too many choices or what. Either or.

I agree with your statement

[The Jewish Cunthead]

It can't be that hard...

GoBots or Transformers

He-Man or Smurfs

etc...

[Deleted]

Put me in the bin for cartoons only. Because not all cartoons are for kids, only.

And 16 sounds about right.

Here come the Animaniacs!!!

[National Champion Chris Cole]

HE'S ALIVE!!!!!!

[salmonjunkie]

Will we allow Adult Swim cartoons such as ATHF, Sealab, and Venture Bros.?

[Deleted]

I'm all for it. Animated is animated. That's why I would prefer animated (to include ATHF, Batman, South Park, Simpsons, etc.) over kids' shows. I think we could have a whole other showdown of non-animated kids' shows.

[Loki]

salmonjunkie said:

Will we allow Adult Swim cartoons such as ATHF, Sealab, and Venture Bros.?

If that is what you so desire.

Alright gang, we'll do 16. I plan on waiting until the Superhero ones are closed before I launch this one.

[williamssl]

I'd still prefer the "kid's show showdown" opening it up to both animation and "live action" stuff as opposed to a pure animation thing outside the kids zone....or at least doing the "kid's show" one first.

But hey, free dummy.

[salmonjunkie]

a suggestion for a later showdown.

Which Superhero is the biggest pimp?

For me, it'd be a showdown between Nightwing, Daredevil, Wolverine, and Luke Cage.