[DevSop]

The deal is thus: draft 40 fictional heroes & villains and build 3 teams of each (heroes & villains) between 4-10 members per team. Your heroes and villains can come from any form of fiction. You can finish teams during add/drop if you need more members for a team. The teams will go into a bracket and face each other until only a few remain.

Check the Showdown Archives for past Hero/Villain drafts if you need to flesh out the concept.

I would like to discuss how many teams we each want to do, how many members of each team, and if we want to push towards having specific roles on each team or if each team needs to include different mediums (comics, TV, movies, books, etc).

Sign-up below and let me thoughts on how you want to handle the draft and teams.


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DevSop
Hodgey
Sharky
Leo
Solly
SG
Cletus
Cole
BC
Mayhem
JD

[The Canadian Content]

I'm in.

As far as team building goes, I feel like we should have a set number of teams per drafter and a set number of members per team, but after that, I'd rather see it wide open as far as team makeup goes (i.e., no specific roles or genres mandated). Let people build their teams how they want and let the voters decide who did it best.

[DevSop]

Feb 14, 2022 12:29:58 GMT -5 The Canadian Content said:

I'm in.

As far as team building goes, I feel like we should have a set number of teams per drafter and a set number of members per team, but after that, I'd rather see it wide open as far as team makeup goes (i.e., no specific roles or genres mandated). Let people build their teams how they want and let the voters decide who did it best.

I agree with set # of teams per drafter for sure. I just worry if we say 5 or 6 per team and no rules about the teams, we're gonna wind up with basically the same teams we always have in these, but I'll hear ideas.

[Road Warrior Shark]

Number of teams, yes, needs to be set or that makes bracketing/showdowns impossible to plan until the last minute.

Number per team, maybe leave that up to us. If we are doing say 3 each, what's the harm in a team of three and then a team of 8 if someone thinks it will help? If you don't like the balance, you can vote against them.

Either way, probably in unless the requirements make me do more plain googling than draft planning.

[The Canadian Content]

Fair point about no set team size. There are definitely different sized teams in the “real world” of comics and movies.

[Road Warrior Shark]

Feb 14, 2022 18:33:45 GMT -5 The Canadian Content said:

Fair point about no set team size. There are definitely different sized teams in the “real world” of comics and movies.

Idea stemmed from Dev's "Same teams we always draft" comment. Seem like this is traditionally teams of 5 or so. If you want change, flexing the size might help

[Leo]

I’m in.

You need a set number of teams. Not having a set number for each team I think could be the new wrinkle here.

If you make people draft certain roles or genres I think the rigidity will turn too many people off.

[DevSop]

I'm leaning towards a minimum of 4 per team, max of 8 or 10 team. Maybe capping rounds at 40 and allowing teams to be filled during add/drop if you need more members.

3 teams of heroes
3 teams of villains

Probably no rules on needing to have certain genres or mediums on each team, but still hoping for people to have some variety.

[Sportsguy]

I'm in.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

I’m your Huckleberry.

[DevSop]

Hoping to get at least 2 more before getting a draft order and start date. If anyone wants to ask around, please do.

[Road Warrior Shark]

Feb 15, 2022 8:45:29 GMT -5 DevSop said:

I'm leaning towards a minimum of 4 per team, max of 8 or 10 team. Maybe capping rounds at 40 and allowing teams to be filled during add/drop if you need more members.

3 teams of heroes
3 teams of villains

Probably no rules on needing to have certain genres or mediums on each team, but still hoping for people to have some variety.

I'd go with 3 and 10 to be your floor/ceiling, but that's just my 3 cents. I could see a bad ass trio getting votes, I can also see someone doing an Expundables thing and stacking one team.

[cletusegw]

I'll geve it a try

[DevSop]

Cletus puts us at 7...I need at least 1 more, ideally 2-3 more would be great.

[The Canadian Content]

Anyone seen Mayhem? He's usually on board.

JD said he'd play if we need a body.

[cole1982]

I can try one of these. I lurk these usually because I miss the sign up time.

[DevSop]

Feb 23, 2022 11:54:46 GMT -5 The Canadian Content said:

Anyone seen Mayhem? He's usually on board.

JD said he'd play if we need a body.

If someone knows a way to contact Mayhem, that'd be a big help.

If we can get him, JD, and Cole...that would be 10 and a perfect number to get started.

[Cliffsnotes]

So, obviously I'm relatively new to these. Here's my two cents to change it up slightly compared to what I've seen for past Hero/Villain events:

Instead of three random teams of heroes and three teams of villains, I will suggest that each person should build a hero and villain team for three general tasks:

1. Massive All Out War
2. Arena / Street Level Combat
3. Heist / Crime / Psychological

We then run three separate tournaments until the very end.

Each round is a different battleground. We can all submit a fictional site/storyline for each of the three types of battlegrounds, and the Game Master can randomly select our submissions for each round. War might be the Battle for Hoth, so the Villains join the stormtroopers and the Heroes join the Rebellion.

After running three normal tournaments to determine 3 (or 6?) champions, we can vote for a Best in Show, or have a massive battle royal gauntlet at the end.

[DevSop]

Feb 26, 2022 18:05:13 GMT -5 Cliffsnotes said:

So, obviously I'm relatively new to these. Here's my two cents to change it up slightly compared to what I've seen for past Hero/Villain events:

Instead of three random teams of heroes and three teams of villains, I will suggest that each person should build a hero and villain team for three general tasks:

1. Massive All Out War
2. Arena / Street Level Combat
3. Heist / Crime / Psychological

We then run three separate tournaments until the very end.

Each round is a different battleground. We can all submit a fictional site/storyline for each of the three types of battlegrounds, and the Game Master can randomly select our submissions for each round. War might be the Battle for Hoth, so the Villains join the stormtroopers and the Heroes join the Rebellion.

After running three normal tournaments to determine 3 (or 6?) champions, we can vote for a Best in Show, or have a massive battle royal gauntlet at the end.

The one issue with making it a fight between the teams, is there are certain massively powered characters that make it less of an opinion thing and more of a pure power thing. I’ve always looked at these as which “team” would I rather read in a comic/book or watch in a movie/tv series. Not which team can beat up which team.



ETA: I like the idea of specific types of teams up these have always proven to be harder to get people involved in if they are forced into specific types of characters or roles, but I’m willing to listen on this idea more so than the fight idea.

[Cliffsnotes]

Feb 26, 2022 19:29:44 GMT -5 DevSop said:

I’ve always looked at these as which “team” would I rather read in a comic/book or watch in a movie/tv series. Not which team can beat up which team.

Is this how everyone judges this? It would be nice to know that we are all roughly looking at it the same way.

[The Canadian Content]

Feb 28, 2022 11:32:35 GMT -5 Cliffsnotes said:

Feb 26, 2022 19:29:44 GMT -5 DevSop said:

I’ve always looked at these as which “team” would I rather read in a comic/book or watch in a movie/tv series. Not which team can beat up which team.

Is this how everyone judges this? It would be nice to know that we are all roughly looking at it the same way.

I think it generally is "Which team do you like better?" over "Which team would win?" because in a randomized showdown format, you could have a team of god-level-powered heroes vs a team of archers or swordsmen. Who would win isn't even a consideration.

[DevSop]

Feb 28, 2022 11:32:35 GMT -5 Cliffsnotes said:

Feb 26, 2022 19:29:44 GMT -5 DevSop said:

I’ve always looked at these as which “team” would I rather read in a comic/book or watch in a movie/tv series. Not which team can beat up which team.

Is this how everyone judges this? It would be nice to know that we are all roughly looking at it the same way.

It's how I've always viewed it basically because of Hodgey's point below, but it's up to each individual voter how they vote. I could say it's "best team chemistry" but someone can decide that chemistry is decided on who lives/dies at the end of the matchup. That's why it's tough to put rules on types of teams or specific members of the teams even if it might make a more interesting showdown.

[Road Warrior Shark]

JD's proposal sounds interesting, but way over my head. I'll do it, but that's more thought into a team than I am generally capable of and would probably have the most ill-fitting teams in each category.

Hell, About a third of the time, I end up voting for the team with "More people that I've actually heard of" much less things like chemistry or ability to win a fight.

[Road Warrior Shark]

Did I win? I think I won.

[DevSop]

I was waiting to see if there was going to be any more discussion of the rules. I’ll get a draft order thread started either tomorrow or Monday and we’ll start clocks Wednesday. We’re at 9 if Cole and JD are definitely in. That puts us at 27 teams on each side. I’ll figure out brackets for that portion later