[JayBee]

To this point I haven't recommended too many titles. But, I made it about 3-4 pages into this one, and I have to tell you guys...it's gorgeous.

Obviously, Spidey fans are reading anyways because JMS is ending his run, and it's part of a major story arc. But, if you want to just see some real nice art, Quesada/Miki did some pretty stuff here.

Also, the cover with Mary Jane standing alone, agains a white background, looking away, hands crossed, kinda foggy? Very nice.



EDIT: changed thread title to reflect the more general nature of the thread.
-OpTard

[Batman]

. . . got scans?

[JayBee]

Already got rid of my...erm...copy.

Not too sure how to post scans. Could use a quick tutorial.

[Batman]

Sure, why not?

If you know where there's a preview page--like they have at Newsarama--go to that. Make sure you're actually at the image. (I.e. right-click on the image and choose "View Image.") The web address should end ".jpg" or something similar like ".bmp". Copy and paste the address in your post and put the code [ img ] before the address and [ /img ] after it. (except without the spaces.)

Or, if it's an image on your hard drive, upload it to photobucket or some similar image-hosting website. Then once the image is hosted, you include it in your post the same way. If you're using photobucket, there's a little shortcut--you don't have to actually go to the image address. There's four address fields under each image in your account; the bottom one is labeled "IMG Code." Copy and paste that into your post, and you don't have to type the img bb code either, it's already included.

When I was new at bb code and would forget how to do things I would find a post with the effect I was looking for and hit the "modify" button on that post. You can't really modify someone else's posts (not being an admin) but you can see what bb code they used to, for instance, do this.

Or post a picture:



So, if my explanation wasn't 100% clear, hit modify on this post, and you'll be able to see for yourself how I do those things.

A particularly useful thing to know the BB code for is links. Some addresses are really long so it's good to know how to make a hyper-link in your post, like this one, to an interview with Geoff Johns about the upcoming Legion storyline in Action Comics.

[JayBee]

Ok, I'll try it out. Everyone can point and laugh as I screw it up.



And



I wish I could get the second one bigger, but meh.

[Stu]

That's pretty good, except Pete looks so scrawny and little that I thought for a second this was from Ultimate Spider-Man.

[OpTard]

i like quasada's stuff less and less with each new project. i think alot of it comes down to who the inker was. i definitely prefer quasada with palmiotti's ink rather than miki. in fact i quite hate what miki's doing there with all the scritchity-scratchity stuff, though having seen the pencils they've released i know alot of that is quasada's doing. plus i think he's going overboard with his exaggerations and it doesn't work for me. though i can't deny that every so often there's some really cool shots in there.

my favorite quasada work to day has been batman: sword of azrael. he wasn't established enough to get away with going too far outside the box and he had kevin nowlan inks (and nothing can look bad when kevin nowlan's hand is in it).

as far as how OMD is going, i am so far unimpressed. everyone knows that this story is all about the ending and i've found these past 2 issues have been nothing more than killing time, and i think the next issue will be more of the same. keep peter busy till the last issue when whatever happens can happen.

i for one am happy that JMS is leaving spider-man. i think he started off strong, but then it got real boring, then sins past happened, then it got boring again, i liked what he did during civil war and back in black (speaking of which, one more day started right after back in black and there's absolutely no explanation why he stopped wearing the black costume. what? he beats up the kingpin and his angst over his shot aunt is gone and it's back to the cheery red and blue? i don't think so), and OMD has been a bust so far.

i don't think i'm gonna like the ending to OMD, but i am looking forward to brand new day. i think that will be good.

[salmonjunkie]

I stopped collecting comics right when Pete went Back in Black. Any explainanation why he's back to red and blue?

And what's been happening with Spidey since? (yes, that means I haven't read New Avengers since right after Civil War ended.)

[Stu]

my favorite quasada work to day has been batman: sword of azrael. he wasn't established enough to get away with going too far outside the box and he had kevin nowlan inks (and nothing can look bad when kevin nowlan's hand is in it).

I'm in the middle of that right now. It's good, but what's up with the humungous yellow oval bat-symbol?

[OpTard]

whataya want? the guy likes a big symbol. there's a lot worse liberties you can take with batman. like those assholes who put the pointy things on his shoulders. god i fucking hate that.

[Stu]

And nipples.

[OpTard]

we don't talk about that.

so.... spider-man, huh guys? pretty cool.

[OpTard]

from newsarama:

Marvel has released updated solicitation information for the final two parts of “One More Day” as well as a teaser for the second half of the arc. The publisher released no further text aside from the ordering information:

SENSATIONAL SPIDER-MAN #41 (AUG072202)
Written by J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Pencils & 50/50 Cover by JOE QUESADA
50/50 Cover by MARKO DJURDJEVIC
“ONE MORE DAY” Part 3
Rated A …$3.99
FOC—11/08/07, On-Sale—11/28/07

[Newsarama Note: the issue’s original on-sale date was 10/31]

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #545 (SEP072177)
Written by J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Pencils & 50/50 Cover by JOE QUESADA
50/50 Cover by MARKO DJURDJEVIC
“ONE MORE DAY” PART 4
Rated A …$3.99
FOC—12/06/07, On-Sale—12/27/07

[Newsarama Note: the issue’s original on-sale date was 11/28]

The publisher did not address the scheduling situation in regards to Amazing Spider-Man shipping three times a month, which was slated to begin with issue #546, which was originally scheduled to be in stores on December 5th, with #547 and #548 in stores on December 12th and 19th, respectively.




this is why joe Q shouldn't draw books. he's been working on this book for a year now and he can't get 4 books done? please.

[The Canadian Content]

Hey Tard, can you list the characters pictured there? I know most of them, but not the top left and middle right people.

[OpTard]

top left is ezikial, who was introduced at the beginning of JMS' run. he's part of the whole spider totem thing that JMS added into spidey's origin.

middle right is valkyrie. she's basically just a girl thor.

[OpTard]

oh, in case there's any others that people can't tell it goes:



ezikial, iron man, superskrull
loki, daredevil, valkyrie
venom, scarlet witch, gwen stacy

[OpTard]

ok justin. the next OMD is out. your thoughts?

[Stu]

Alternate take:

[OpTard]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! even JMS thinks OMD sucks!!

Speak of the devil and he shall appear....

For whatever it's worth, the situation is not as clear cut as one
might hope. The reality of any writer workingfor any company, DC or
Marvel or Image, is that when you're handed a franchise character,
you're basically entrusted with something that the company owns, and
the company has final say in what happens to that character, because
as a writer, you're only there for a certain amount of time and then
the next guy has to come in. Spider-Man belongs to Marvel, not to me,
and at the end of the day, however much I may disagree with things,
and however much I may make it very CLEAR to all parties that I
disagree, I have to honor their position.

In the Gwen storyline, yes, I wanted it to be Peter's kids, Joe over-
rode that, which is his right as EIC. I got the flack for that
decision, but them's the breaks.

In the current storyline, there's a lot that I don't agree with, and I
made this very clear to everybody within shouting distance at Marvel,
especially Joe. I'll be honest: there was a point where I made the
decision, and told Joe, that I was going to take my name off the last
two issues of the OMD arc. Eventually Joe talked me out of that
decision because at the end of the day, I don't want to sabotage Joe
or Marvel, and I have a lot of respect for both of those. As an
executive producer as well as a writer, I've sometimes had to insist
that my writers make changes that they did not want to make, often
loudly so. They were sure I was wrong. Mostly I was right.
Sometimes I was wrong. But whoever sits in the editor's chair, or the
executive producer's chair, wears the pointy hat of authority, and as
Dave Sim once noted, you can't argue with a pointy hat.

So at the end of the day, all one can do is try to do the best one can
with the notes one is given, and try to execute them in a professional
way...because who knows, the other guy may be right. The only thing I
*can* tell you, with absolute certainty, is that what Joe does with
Spidey and all the rest of the Marvel characters, he does out of a
genuine love of the character. He's not looking to sabotage anything,
he's not looking to piss off the fans, he genuinely believes in the
rightness of his views not out of a sense of "I'm the boss" but
because he loves these characters and the Marvel universe.

And right or wrong, you have to respect that.

jms

blog.newsarama.com/2007/12/04/jms-on-one-more-day-theres-a-lot-that-i-dont-agree-with/#more-6323

[Stu]

Would it kill them to have Pete go a couple of years WITHOUT suffering some angst-ridden crisis he doesn't deserve? You'd think by now he'd just blow his brains out or go completely off the deepend. And I really don't get how his marriage would be more valuable to Mephisto than his soul.

[OpTard]

actually, mephisto not wanting his soul was the one thing i think they explained well.

basically there's no fun in torturing people who've sold their soul to help another because they're happy to take their punishment knowing they did something good.

i'm sure he'd be happy to take someone's soul if all they wanted was to be rich in return. they probably wouldn't take their torture as nobly.

the rest of the book was garbage, or course.

[Stu]

operationretard said:

actually, mephisto not wanting his soul was the one thing i think they explained well.

basically there's no fun in torturing people who've sold their soul to help another because they're happy to take their punishment knowing they did something good.

i'm sure he'd be happy to take someone's soul if all they wanted was to be rich in return. they probably wouldn't take their torture as nobly.

Yeah, but considering what Mephisto could ask for, settling for the amusement of Pete being miserable just seems like a waste of a good opportunity. Why not agree to heal May in exchange for Pete's servitude to him in evil? As a member of the New Avengers and knowing all the big heroes of the MU as he does, he'd be in a pretty good position to cause some damage.

[OpTard]

because he's evil but he's not a supervillian. he deals in misery, not taking on the new avengers.

[salmonjunkie]

I stopped reading Amazing Spidey a while back. What's up with this One More Day story that makes it so sucky?

[Stu]

Due to Pete revealing his secret identity to the worl in Civil War, Aunt May got critically wounded by an assassin's bullet, and she's slipping away. Pete's trying to find a way to save her. Conventional means are apparently not an option, so Mystical ones seem to be the answer, but Mephisto wants him to give up him marriage in exchange for the favour, which should mean no more Pete and MJ in some form (rumour is the timeline will change so they never got together, but one of them will remember, though if they tell the other, it'll undo the deal), which is something Joe Quesada has clearly said he's wanted to do away with in the Spidey books because he thinks it "ages" Peter, and makes him unrelatable... :
And the execution of the book is meant to be pretty boring, I hear. I'm not actually reading it. I just read Ultimate Spider-man.