[Evil Scotty]

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Voting will start monday.

Polls close thursday around 10pm.

[Courtney]

I've gotta go with Spidey just because I haven't seen the other one.

Oh yeah, Scotty, I made your pic a little smaller so it didn't break the tables.

[Evil Scotty]

courtney said:

Oh yeah, Scotty, I made your pic a little smaller so it didn't break the tables.

Thanks

[Chris Eco]

Oddly enough, Spidey for me too. I love that poster, btw.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

Come on... if we're talking about pure action, Hard Boiled PWNS about 95% of this entire showdown. No blue screen, no CGI, just dueling pistols and nonstop action like only Woo can.

[DevSop]

Cept the fact, that maybe 20 people have seen the movie.

[Stu]

devilsoprano said:

Cept the fact, that maybe 20 people have seen the movie.

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[Krydor]

Fucking rights, Solly. Rubber CGI Spiderman has nothing on Chow Yun Fat, ever.

[Jack Quinn]

I've never see either of these movies, so I hope they both lose

[docx]

John Woo is highly overrated, in my opinion. Lots of 'splosions, lots of slo-mo. Other than that? Wait, there is nothing other than that.

Spidey gets my vote. CGI or not.

[Krydor]

Wait, Woo is overrated in comparison to Sam Rami? The guy who puts his shitty car and Bruce Campbell in all his movies so his nerdy fanboys can splooge all over the movie screen? Come the fuck on.

Spiderman I was Donner's Superman, with shot for shot lifts from that flick
Spiderman II was Superman II

[docx]

I didn't say Sam Raimi wasn't overrated, just that John Woo was.

[Krydor]

The Hollywood system killed John Woo. HK Woo beats the shit out of nearly all the action directors in the past 30 years.

[Batman]

krydor said:

Spiderman I was Donner's Superman, with shot for shot lifts from that flick

Spider-Man had time travel?

[Chris Eco]

I think when I voted, it was 2-1 Hard Boiled.

SURPRISE BUTTSECKS!!...I mean...BLOWOUT!!

[Loki]

sergeial said:

krydor said:

Spiderman I was Donner's Superman, with shot for shot lifts from that flick

Spider-Man had time travel?

Spider-Man had 3 escaped villains from his home planet of Arachnia come to Earth with identical Spider powers and try to take over the world? Shit, I totally missed that plot point!

[Stu]

Spider-Man 2's great, but it has some problems which which were really the beginning of what ruined the third one.
2 started the fucking irritating trend of Spidey taking his mask off in public, FOR NO GODDAMN REASON AT ALL!
It's the one that made the majority of the character stuff about the Peter/MJ romance, and I do personally find movie MJ to be a self-absorbed hypocrite.
Really weird behaviour from supposedly intelligent people. Mostly Doc Ock. Like, he has Harry Osborn hanging over a ledge, and wants him to give him the tridium. Harry says he will if he brings him Spider-man. Ock agrees. Um...why you wasting your time doing him a favour, Ock? You have the guy HANGING OVER A LEDGE! He's in no position to bargain.
Then, he needs MJ and Peter alive, her so he can get Spidey to come to him, him so he can tell Spidey that. So what's he do? HE THROWS A FUCKING CAR at them, which only fails to kill them because Peter has Spider-sense, speed and reflexes. Then he throws Pete through a wall, which he somehow knows he'll survive.
How does Spidey learn from Harry where Ock's lab is? He never mentioned to him the location!

[Krydor]

Character arcs, you 'tards.

How does Spidey lose his powers? What the fuck is that? He can't lose his powers, hallucinate and suddenly get them back. It added an element of the supernatural that was utterly pointless so that there could be some lame internal conflict.

[Stu]

I think it's based on an old storyline in the comics where he mysteriously loses his powers, and thinking it's permanent, reveals to those he cares about that he was Spider-Man. Only they come back, and it turns out he only lost them because he had a COLD.
The Uncle Ben dream thing was stupid too. All he can say is "with great power, yadda yadda yadda"

[Mikey]

What the fuck is Hard Boiled?

It doesn't matter though, cause I'm not voting for Spiderman.

[Batman]

Yep, Spidey losing his powers because of lack of self-confidence and guilt over the death of Uncle Ben just as Doc Oc was planning an attack on him? You're right that would never happen in the comics.

Except of course in Spider-Man Annual #1. . . . In 1964, 16 years before Superman II.

[salmonjunkie]

tarheelmike said:

What the fuck is Hard Boiled?

It doesn't matter though, cause I'm not voting for Spiderman.

Hard Boiled is the best non-kung-fu action flick to come out of Hong Kong, the movie that made Chow Yun Fat a star, the movie that introduced the manliness of holding pistols in both hands, and has one of the highest on-screen death counts in all of movies. The entire third act of the movie is a shootout between a two cops and a bunch of terrorists. In a hospital. With lots of people getting shot. And a high dosage of badassery.

I love Spider-Man 2, but I'm voting for Hard Boiled just out of principle. And badassery. It's Hong Kong's Die Hard. If you haven't watched it, put it on top of your Netflix queue NOW!

[docx]

"Chow Yun Fat"

Japanese people!! They have funny names.

[Lucky]

He's Chinese you RACIST! I have half a mind to give you a matching Courtney theme!

stu said:

Really weird behaviour from supposedly intelligent people. Mostly Doc Ock. Like, he has Harry Osborn hanging over a ledge, and wants him to give him the tridium. Harry says he will if he brings him Spider-man. Ock agrees. Um...why you wasting your time doing him a favour, Ock? You have the guy HANGING OVER A LEDGE! He's in no position to bargain.

Does Doc Ock actually kill anyone? He certainly comes close a few times and threatens it, but does he ever actually do it? My thinking is he's basically a good guy who got driven insane, but is eventually brought back by his basic compassion for life. So I could probably argue that hanging Harry over a ledge loses a lot of its meaning to him if he's unwilling to actually drop him and make that very deliberate and clear murdering act. Even if its just in his subconscious. Of course Harry may not know that so he can still use it, but his subconscious is saying "this is all a bluff and I'm not willing to go through with it" so when shown another route he bites. Of course if Ock killed someone in the film then my theory gets shot out the window.

I'm not really defending it. I don't know how I feel about Spidey 2 as I think I've only seen it once. And I definitely was driven insane by movie MJ who is a complete and utter selfish bitch. I just think that's how I rationalized your complaint at the time.

I've meant to watch Hard Boiled but I've never much seen anything I love from Fat or Woo and I've never gotten around to tracking it down. So alas, despite my uncertainty about my feelings for Spidey 2 I must vote for it.

[Brother X]

HB isn't even the best Fat-Woo collaboration. Replacement Killers is completely better. Even with some Sorvino or other.

And everyone's favorite Jewish superhero, Herschel Spiderman, rocks the house in S2. But not for the Peter/MJ angle. He's cool but Snaggletooth McGee has been a trainwreck in all three movies as MJ. She's a strong woman in the books, not an utterly whiny bitch.
No. It was Molina what made that movie. He was teh. Fucking. Awesome.