[Evil Scotty]

vs.





Voting starts later tonight and will close July 26 10pm.

[Courtney]

Wow, I'm stuck. I love T2, but Transformers was so awesome.

[Mikey]

A movie that was released 20 minutes ago has no business on this list. I'm just saying that now.

[Lucky]

In theory I agree. Not to say Transformers might not be one of the best action movies ever. Its just had no room to breath. We have no perspective on it. There's been no second viewings 6 months later when you weren't as impressed. I mean, if we had done this tourney last year do you think Snakes on a Plane might have scored better? A year later?

[The Jewish Cunthead]

tarheelmike said:

A movie that was released 20 minutes ago has no business on this list. I'm just saying that now.

A movie released 20 minutes has no business WINNING. Nominate it all you want and this is my feeling for any of these polls: nothing since 1994 (ie, Pulp & Shawshank) should have any shittin' business winning anything around here.

[Lucky]

Why? My objection to Transformers is just that we're all wrapped up in the hype and excitement of the first viewings and such. People who are calling it THE GREATEST ACTION FILM EVER! are going to back off in 6 months, a year, whatever. Once they gain some perspective and the initial excitement wears off. Then the film can be fairly judged on how it holds up and where it sits historically.

But why can't a movie made more than 10 years ago win? That's a ton of time to rest, grow cold, and still impress. Lots of movies have followed trying to rip it off or using the same technology and its held up against them and stood apart.

I think the one movie I'm worried I might be overrating is Sin City. Only been around 2 years. Will I still think its one of the best action flicks I'd ever seen in 5 years? Once more films have been made in this style? Once its own sequels have been made? Once I've seen it so many times? Well I be able to watch it with as much joy as many times as I have Raiders? I might come to regret my excitement for that. But am I worried that I might be overrating some film I've had 5-10 years to sit on and still love? Hell no.

Old man.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

luckylopez said:

Old man.

I like Sin City but let's face it, it's just blue/green screen goodness with the typical Rodriguez flair thrown in. I'll still take Mariachi or Desperado over it.

I don't want to blindly vote against anything made in the past 10 years but I really feel the better movies were made in the 70s, 80s and early 90s. Today it's all about who has the bigger opening weekend vs. developing characters and telling a well-written story.

Now get off my lawn and stop listening to that rock 'n roll music.

And get a haircut.

[Lucky]

You're an old man. And my head is shaved.

Like I said, Sin City might not hold up. In 2 or 3 years I might agree that its typical Rodriguez fare. Then again, I really don't love the Mariachi movies and I LOVE Sin City. And I had never read the comics so there has to be something there. I wasn't a Rodriguez fan, I'm not a fan of the comics who was waiting for it, and I'm really not all that moved by technical feats because I tend to overanalyze them. So I think there's something real about my love. But I brought it up because I completely acknowledge the possibility that my love will fade with time.

And what the fuck delusion are you living in when you argue the better character development and story writing in the fucking Action showdown? Tango and fucking Cash is in this thing!

[Jack Quinn]

didn't Tango & Cash share a tender moment in prison? What more do you want?

[Evil Scotty]

it was a hot steamy shower scene.

[Lucky]

I think the answer to that question is clear. The Drama Showdown has set a clear standard for our forum and male prison movies.

No ass rape is just a tease.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

luckylopez said:

And what the fuck delusion are you living in when you argue the better character development and story writing in the fucking Action showdown? Tango and fucking Cash is in this thing!

Yeah this should have been posted in the drama showdown. Sue me.

[creepy]

luckylopez said:

In theory I agree. Not to say Transformers might not be one of the best action movies ever.

Didn't you not want to see this? Weren't you shitting on the idea of being dragged to see this? Does this mean you really, honest to god liked it? I'm curious.

[Stu]

Voting starts later tonight and will close July 26 10pm.

See, this is the problem. Transformers isn't even OUT over here in the UK until the 27th, so having not seen it, and not having a chance to see it until this poll is actually closed, I can't really make a fair choice. Not that I was particularly leaning towards definitely going to see it.

[Loki]

Yeah, like there is any doubt as to which way I am going to go.

[Lucky]

creepyjackalopeeye said:

Didn't you not want to see this? Weren't you shitting on the idea of being dragged to see this? Does this mean you really, honest to god liked it? I'm curious.

I managed to avoid getting dragged to it and I have yet to see it. And despite the universal praise I have very little interest in seeing it. I just didn't want to disqualify the possibility that it really is as good as its being said to be. I doubt it is, just because I think every really good movie gets overhyped in the initial excitement. But it could very well be one of the best action films ever. I don't know of any real reason it can't be. And I try very hard not to criticize things I haven't seen. I'm just arguing the principle of the thing here.

[DevSop]

Don't worry, it's against an Arnold movie, no chance people even give it a chance.

[Stu]

I love that the OP made sure to specify it was the (2007) Transformers movie, as if the cartoon one from the 80s would get to this stage (though knowing the fans, I'd sadly not be that surprised if it did).

[Jack Quinn]

I am glad Sop isn't bitter

[Mikey]

mooseheadjack said:

I am glad Sop isn't bitter

SMELL THE IRONY~!

[Jack Quinn]

are you calling me BITTER? I am SURLY fucker, get it right!

[The Jewish Cunthead]

tarheelmike said:

mooseheadjack said:

I am glad Sop isn't bitter

SMELL THE IRONY~!

SMELL THE IRONY of Mikey calling anyone bitter