[Evil Scotty]

vs.





Voting starts later tonight and will close July 26 10pm.

[Courtney]

SIN CITY!!!

[The Jewish Cunthead]

I like you Sully, that's why I'm going to kill you last.

[salmonjunkie]

Sin City is a million times better than Commando. I love Arnie movies, but Commando is just stupid.

[Lucky]

THANK YOU! I don't love Arnie movies so I didn't want to say it.

Oh, but Thai. Filmmakers stopped writing decent characters and dialogue after 1994. Noone cares about plots. Not like Commando!

I will give Commando credit for 1 thing. Rae Dawn Chong and Alyssa Milano in one film is like some sort of dream for my kid self.

[Evil Scotty]

sorry...couldn't resist.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

luckylopez said:

THANK YOU! I don't love Arnie movies so I didn't want to say it.

Oh, but Thai. Filmmakers stopped writing decent characters and dialogue after 1994. Noone cares about plots. Not like Commando!

Please... I know Sin City is going to win, my vote was a mercy one for a movie I loved growing up.

[Batman]

That's what you said about your Rocky III vote.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

Yeah but it's Commando... there's no way it gets more than 3 votes.

Right?

[Stu]

"I love [people who vote for Commando], no matter what you do to them, you don't feel bad."

[Batman]

fsolomon75 said:

Yeah but it's Commando... there's no way it gets more than 3 votes.

Right?

Wrong! (Already!)

[Stu]

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[The Jewish Cunthead]

"Let off some steam Bennett."

[Stu]

"She doesn't quite chop his head off...she makes a pez dispenser out of him"

[Krydor]

Commando is a treasured part of my drunken youth, Sin City was a mess of direction, script and story telling. Both movies are bad, one doesn't pretend to be high art.

[DevSop]

I may vomit if this continues. Seriously, why not just make the final 4; Terminator, Commando, Total Recall, and T2. Or if we wanna switch it up, throw a Rocky or Tango in for good measure. This is fucking ridculous.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

DIE A SLOW PAINFUL DEATH!

[Jack Quinn]

ok Sop, seriously, why the hate for Arnold? He is not a great actor, but he has made good action movies. T1 and t2 are really good movies. Commando, eh, I voted for it over Sin City because I hadn't seen Sin City. And I thought Total Recall sucked

[DevSop]

It's not even a hate for Arnold as I really enjoy both Terminator movies, Total Recall, and The Running Man. All really good action movies, but they aren't the 4 best or even close to 4 of the top 16/32. There's no way Commando should beat Sin City. The original Terminator was good and had a few really good above average action scenes, but 300 was a fucking masterpiece of action from start to finish. And I may be overreacting in the Action showdown because the Sci-Fi showdown has annoyed me to no fucking end. Which is why it's been delayed as well. Arnie doesn't have 4 of the best 16 sci-fi movies of all time, I'm fucking sorry but thats horrible. Now he has 3 of the 8 best, are ya kidding me?

[Stu]

It's annoying that despite Action being a pretty broad category, what we ended up getting as the final nominations were a pretty predictable bunch of movies, often spanning other showdowns and comprising of the american movies of the 80s, which seem to be getting lots of goodwill due to nostalgia and "hahaha! Ahhhnold talks funnee!" type support.
Despite the east's great contributions to the genre, only ONE HK film got through, and it got snubbed.

[Jack Quinn]

meh, I think as much as some of us tend to overrate the older movies, you overrate the newer movies

[National Champion Chris Cole]

I'm see a very strong 80s contingent in every movie showdown. I'm wondering if we'll see the same trend in music when we get around to that.

[DevSop]

It's not overrating a period of movies, it's overrating Stallone and Arnold as the pinnacle of Action and in Arnold's case sci-fi somehow. Are they great Action actors? Yes...Do they deserve 3 or 4 movies each in these showdowns? Not a chance in hell, let alone the fact that they're beating better movies within the genre. I just don't get how people are voting in some situations compared to others.

Are we voting Best Action or Favorite Action? I don't think that's ever been clarified to any certainty and maybe that's why I'm having problems. If people really enjoy all these Arnold movies that much more, I can't really say anything other than their taste in certain regards is fucking horrible. But if we're voting best movie between the two, I don't get some of these votes. I can understand 2 movies that may be close and the votes can go either way, but some of the results are just downright wrong if we're voting that way. Going all the way back to Rocky over Godfather and Empire over Anything in drama.

[Jack Quinn]

but really, this whole thing is opinion. You could attempt to have long drawn out debates over the merits of some movies, but you say 300 is so much better than Commando, why? Because you prefer it. Some prefer Commando. I mean we are using a sample size of, what, 25 people here? So its not like our opinions on movies is even remotely close to what the consensus might be.

And really, after some of the horses you have backed, do you REALLY want to throw out the "their tastes in things is fucking horrible."

Its a fun pole, I have had a lot of movies lose that I thought lost to inferior movies. Relax

[The Jewish Cunthead]

Plus it's not like this is the AFI or anything... unless I read your top 25 incorrectly and missed Ben-Hur, Gone With The Wind, and Citizen Kane