[Evil Scotty]

vs.




Voting starts Monday.


Polls close thursday around 10pm.

[Courtney]

As far as action movies go, I'm gonna have to vote 300.

[Lucky]

Well, I've seen 1 of them.

[DevSop]

Arnold's all over this showdown and sci-fi, it's so boring at this point...let's get 300 into the 2nd round.

[Krydor]

This is blasphemy! This is madness! This is SPARTA.

I don't think I nominated this Arnie flick, so 300 it is.

[Lucky]

devilsoprano said:

Arnold's all over this showdown and sci-fi, it's so boring at this point...let's get 300 into the 2nd round.

I'd love to lessen Arnold's presence. It would just be easier to do that in good conscience if he'd go against a movie I've seen or have any interest in seeing.

[Chris Eco]

Everyone here save Lucky is saying 300, and yet it's down 4-1. And that 1 is mine. Someone care to VOTE?

[docx]

Terminator.

[National Champion Chris Cole]

I did not nominate 300 since I was trying not too nominate movies made too recently. But now that it is here I'm going to throw it a vote. I thought the movie was really great. If this was T2 I'd be voting Terminator but in this case I threw a vote to 300.

[Lori]

Still haven't seen 300, sorry. Terminator it is.

[Loki]

300. To me Terminator is more of a sci-fi movie.

[Stu]

loki said:

300. To me Terminator is more of a sci-fi movie.

It's also sort of more a horror movie, as it's basic plot is two people running away from an unstoppable being of some kind out to kill them. T2 is more of an action film, as it's a more balanced fight between Terminators.

[salmonjunkie]

300 was manly as fuck.

[Lucky]

stu said:

loki said:

300. To me Terminator is more of a sci-fi movie.

It's also sort of more a horror movie, as it's basic plot is two people running away from an unstoppable being of some kind out to kill them. T2 is more of an action film, as it's a more balanced fight between Terminators.

Terminator is certainly a Sci Fi film because of the time travel and terminators. Its also arguably a horror film because of that terror induced chase being pursued by an unstoppable murdering monster. Neither disqualifies it from being an action flick as Arnold tears shit up, bust through walls, and slaughters people widespread. Car chases, guns, etc. I still don't get why people think films have to be one or another. Or because one element of a genre is heavily prevalent that it lessens the elements of another genre.

[Brother X]

I love the story behind 300. I have a history degree, and trend toward massively important European and American fights.



That said, 300 absolutely and without question, fucking blew giant donkey cock.
I'm not sure if the donkey is giant. Or just the cock.
...the point is that the movie's terrible.



Terminator.

[creepy]

Gather 'round, gather 'round!

Vote for sale.

[DevSop]

Please vote 300, I'm so sick of ARNOLD. I'm not even saying 300 is better action wise(it is.) but Arnie had like 5 movies in the sci-fi showdown, another 3 or something here. Most are advancing at least a few rounds. This is one place where he doesn't need to win. And besides Terminator's action sequences pale in comparison to the sequel, and I'd put 300 just a step below T2.

[docx]

I have to say that the whole "I'm sick of Arnie/Sly" argument is thin. If there were a shitload of Arnie movies in comedy or drama, that would maybe carry a bit more weight. But he is (they both are) a bona fide action superstar. It's what he did best, and he did it A LOT. And he, for the most part, did it pretty well.
Don't vote Terminator over Godfather, but don't vote it out in favor of 300 unless you really think 300 is just better.
"I'm sick of..." is a bad argument.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

What The Good Doc said. It's an action showdown - you expect actors from that genre. The fact it's littered with Sly & Arnold means they're kinda good at it. The fact none of you likes Hard Boiled besides the VC and myself means you hate Orientals.

[docx]

Hellloooooo....those people are called "Asians" now. You are such a racist.

EDIT: Or "Japanese", which is a catch all for all the yellow people of the world.
Including Eskimos.

[Brother X]

fsolomon75 said:

What The Good Doc said. It's an action showdown - you expect actors from that genre. The fact it's littered with Sly & Arnold means they're kinda good at it. The fact none of you likes Hard Boiled besides the VC and myself means you hate Orientals.

Hey now. Whoooaaa. Let's slow this train down a bit, Sparky. I like Hard Boiled a bunch. I just said that Replacement Killers is better. Even though it's a Hollywood Woo movie and not a Hong Kong Woo one. It's still good.

Chow Yun Fat could sit on screen reading an instruction manual and make it look interesting.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

Don't mind me, I just wanted to call Thai "VC"... it has a nice ring to it.

[Loki]

luckylopez said:

stu said:

It's also sort of more a horror movie, as it's basic plot is two people running away from an unstoppable being of some kind out to kill them. T2 is more of an action film, as it's a more balanced fight between Terminators.

Terminator is certainly a Sci Fi film because of the time travel and terminators. Its also arguably a horror film because of that terror induced chase being pursued by an unstoppable murdering monster. Neither disqualifies it from being an action flick as Arnold tears shit up, bust through walls, and slaughters people widespread. Car chases, guns, etc. I still don't get why people think films have to be one or another. Or because one element of a genre is heavily prevalent that it lessens the elements of another genre.

Speaking strictly for me - We're basing this on genre voting. Sci-Fi, action, drama, comedy, etc.. One of the factors I use is "how representative is this of the genre"? Spaceballs is a great example. That's a comedy movie. Yes, it also a sci-fi movie, but to me, the comedy trumps the sci-fi. If Spaceballs (which I liked) were to go up against Return of the Jedi (which I also liked) in the sci-fi round, I'd probably vote Jedi because it's more of a sci-fi movie to me.

I like films that cross genre. Makes them much more interesting. Films that stay in one genre are usually deadly dull.

For this, I'm not saying Terminator is or is not an Action film. It is, no doubt. I just think 300 is more action-y. And, bluntly, a better movie.

[Lucky]

I get you. I just tend to get annoyed when people are like "_____ is NOT a _____, its a ______!" Probably because it often comes from those hardcore, geeky genre fans who get offended that you tossed something they don't regard as appropriate in there's or dared to suggest something they love is part of a genre they consider inferior. But I get what you're saying. If 300 scratches your action bug more than Terminator I got no objection to the vote.

I don't have a horse in this thing anyway.

[Courtney]

fsolomon75 said:

Don't mind me, I just wanted to call Thai "VC"... it has a nice ring to it.

I thought that was my job.