[Pun]

Because I am bored and don't want to keep up with a piece of paper that I might lose, I'm starting this thread now. Post your Keepers for 2008 here. The rules for Keepers can be found in this thread. Make sure you list who is going to be your franchise player, so you are not charged with a draft pick.

This list is by no means final (at least not until the end of the season), so feel free to change it around. I just wanted someplace for everyone to keep track of Keepers without having to worry about losing their list.

Pun's 2008 Keepers[/b]
1. Carlos Marmol (RP - CHC)
2. Rich Hill (SP - CHC)
3. Mark Prior (SP - CHC)
4. Russell Martin (C - LAD)
5. Josh Beckett (SP - BOS) - FRANCHISE

[Lucky]

You're keeping Mark Prior? Really?

I haven't the slightest idea who I'm keeping. Carlos Guillen, Ryan Braun, BJ Upton, Yovani Gallardo, Micah Owings, Alex Gordon, Hunter Pence are probably the front runners. Mark Teahan could win himself a spot if only because he could because he could end up qualifying at CF (but he'll probably lose his 3B elligibility). Pedro could win a spot if he comes back big. And LaRoche could win himself a spot. Saltalamchia is on my team specifically for the reason of winning a keeper spot. If Broxton finishes up strong and is clear candidate for closer next season he could get a spot.

Nope, I have no idea. If things go well I'll be trading off potential keepers like I did last year. But I don't think we declared keepers until like Dec last year so I'm not that concerned at the moment.

And you forgot the F2 player at half the cost.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

Solly's 2008 Keepers[/b]
1. Phil Hughes (SP - NYY)
2. Matt Holliday (LF - COL
3. Adam Dunn (LF - CIN)
4. Jered Weaver (SP - LAA)
5. Scott Kazmir (SP - TB)
6. Adrian Gonzalez (1B - SD)

Now the fun comes trying to figure out which 5...

[Lucky]

Damn, I forgot about Chris Young. Really, if you like some of my potential keepers feel free to make a trade offer. I need to unload some of these guys and get something of value. If that means trading them now for non-keeper options or older guys that can work fine for me.

I guess tentatively my Keeper List looks like this

1. Yovani Gallardo
2. Chris Young
3. BJ Upton
4. Matt Holliday
5. Carlos Guillen/Hunter Pence/Alex Gordon/Ryan Braun/Saltalamachia

[Mikey]

All I know thus far is that I will undoubtedly be keeping:

1. Daisuke Matsuzaka
2. Hanley Ramirez

I will more than likely franchise Jeff Francoeur.

Beyond that, I don't quite know yet.

[DevSop]

Dan Haren, Howie Kendrick, and 3 trades.

[National Champion Chris Cole]

Subject to change
1. Chien Ming Wang
2. Magglio Ordonez - F2
3. Torii Hunter - F1
4. Dan Uggla
5. Kevin Youkilis

Still might decide to slide Ethier or Rios in somewhere though.

[National Champion Chris Cole]

Question on the picks you need to give up. Let's say you have two keepers that both cost the same round pick but you only have one pick that round. What happens then?

[Attitude Adjuster]

Interestingly, I was thinking about this just before this thread was created. I'm looking at:

Sabathia (Franchise)
Josh Hamilton
Juan Pierre (Franchise 2)
Tim Lincecum
Joe Blanton/Matt Cain (Franchise 3 for Cain)

[DevSop]

MKid, I think you lose the next highest pick you'd have. So, if for example you had two keepers who should cost a 16th round pick and neither are franchised or anything, you'd wind up losing a 15th and a 16th.

AA, I have NO idea what a Franchise 3 is.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

Never mind AA, he's too busy daydreaming about actually seeing Babe Ruth play to read those pesky keeper rules

[Pun]

Just a question. Have we, as a whole, put way too much time into something that was just supposed to be a bunch of friends playing fantasy baseball, or do a lot of people do this (rules, franchise, etc.)?

[Jack Quinn]

Moose Keepers (So Far)[/u]

1. Justin Verlander
2. Cole Hamels
3. Brandon Webb (F2)
4. Ryan Howard (F1)
5. Shane Victorino

Not sure who gets the fifth spot just yet

[Lucky]

admin said:

Just a question. Have we, as a whole, put way too much time into something that was just supposed to be a bunch of friends playing fantasy baseball, or do a lot of people do this (rules, franchise, etc.)?

I've looked around and especially at the Rotoworld Forum. It has a whole board devoted to fantasy and I've seen how a lot of people run their ships. TSN too. Yes, lots seem to do this and actually we seem to have been more conservative than most. Most "Dynasty Leagues" seem to have as many as 10 minor leaguers in their system. I've seen leagues that do full 40 man rosters in that way. Lots of different keeper rules. We might have put too much thought in at individual times because (a) I can't turn my brain off and (b) none of us had any real experience in this but in the end product? We seem to be on the shy end of the world of "Dynasty Leagues", which aren't that rare in Fantasy.


Dev got the draft pick question right. You lose your next highest pick.

I too have no idea what a F3 player is. I'm guessing AA was mocking me. He does that a lot.

[Attitude Adjuster]

Not mocking, just didn't read the rules. So I can only keep two guys that I kept last year? That's what I thought "franchise" meant. Rules? We don't need no stinkin' rules!

So where are the rules?

[Lucky]

Rules is here.
natecorbitt.proboards81.com/index.cgi?board=keeper&action=display&thread=1171321459

Long story short? You can keep anyone who wasn't drafted in the 1st 5 rounds.
You lose a pick for each keeper based on where he was drafted.
You can "franchise" 2 of them. F1 means you don't lose a pick for him. F2 means you lose a pick but at a lower cost.

Further details in that link, as well as breakdown of the cost of last year's keepers and a list of everyone you can't keep.

[Attitude Adjuster]

Well, that makes a difference. Guess I should read the rules more often. Nah...

2008 projected keepers
Josh Hamilton (non-drafted)
Tim Lincecum (non-drafted)
Joe Blanton (17th)
Matt Cain (16th) -- can you believe he's 2-9???
CC Sabathia (11th--Franchise 1)

Then I've got Pierre (8th) and Podsednik (9th) to think about. What I can't believe is I picked Dave Bush in the seventh round and Brad Lidge in the eighth, and still lived to tell about it.

[National Champion Chris Cole]

My middle of the draft was terrible. Picking up Youkilis and Lowell from the Free Agent pool saved my season.

[National Champion Chris Cole]

Just thought of something. Is there a trading deadline for our league?

[Mikey]

metallikid said:

Just thought of something. Is there a trading deadline for our league?

Yeah... my guess is that's it's early-mid August. Could be wrong though.

As for my draft: I believe there's only like 3 guys I took after the 8th round or so that I still had on my team as of end of May. And if I were in a different division, I'd be in second place.

[Lucky]

attitudeadjuster said:

Well, that makes a difference. Guess I should read the rules more often. Nah...

2008 projected keepers
Josh Hamilton (non-drafted)
Tim Lincecum (non-drafted)
Joe Blanton (17th)
Matt Cain (16th) -- can you believe he's 2-9???
CC Sabathia (11th--Franchise 1)

Bear in mind, you don't have to use the Franchise tag. But if you do you have to keep the guy franchised in the future or else you lose him. So if CC was drafted in the 11th he costs a 9th rd pick. If you can live with CC in the 9th it might be wiser not to franchise. Because if you draft someone in the 6th-10th rd next year you want to keep you then might want to give him the franchise tag.

Just some strategy and draft planning everyone should keep in mind.

Then I've got Pierre (8th) and Podsednik (9th) to think about. What I can't believe is I picked Dave Bush in the seventh round and Brad Lidge in the eighth, and still lived to tell about it.

Well, trading off Lidge to me did save you some of that. Of course I gave you Freddy Sanchez so I guess its all even.

[Lucky]

Trading deadline is Friday, August 10, 12PM ET (Week 19).

[Attitude Adjuster]

Hey, I still like Freddy Sanchez. May not give you much in the way of runs, RBIs, HRs and steals, but he is last year's batting champion.

[Lucky]

At this stage I barely like Sanchez in the 20 team league.

[Attitude Adjuster]

I'd take him off your hands if I can get some pitching as well. In that other league I just don't have any trade bait.