[The Jewish Cunthead]

Can't say I ever watched a minute of Futurama plus 70s had all those hot chicks.

(22)Futurama


vs.

(43)That 70's Show



Voting ends Tuesday 10/30

[Krydor]

Futurama was consistently funny. That 70's Show made me laugh. However, there is no Bender on That 70's Show. I'll have no problem voting for whichever show wins.

[Lucky]

Wow that's a big cast for a comedy. I never realized how damn big that was at one point when the sister and Chong were both regulars.

I like both. I don't love either. Bender vs Hot Chicks? Not sure.

[Batman]

Red trumps all.

Dumbass.

[National Champion Chris Cole]

I think the recasting of Lori really hurt the show. Lori was always a great character but the new Lori didn't pull it off. They wrote her out quickly after that.

[Lucky]

It hurt but I don't think it did any real damage. That coincided with the kids graduating high school and that's probably what hurt the show. In order to keep them all together you had to turn a couple of them into complete losers. Random jobs and life goals, all designed to keep them in that basement. It made perfect sense when they were high schoolers. After high school you get shitty jobs and start drinking. Or go to college and hang out in the basement on holidays. Staying locked into the behavior you exhibited in your freshman year of high school makes you a fucking loser.

Then they were getting married but they couldn't get married for the show to work so they had to break off the wedding but stay together. Then you have Jackie pushing Hyde to go somewhere but then the show changes so they have to break up. Then Kelso knocks up a girl but that changes the show so she has to take the kid far away and he has to not be all that affected. Because no matter what we do we MUST keep these kids' maturity completely stunted.

And then they just recast the show and it blew balls.

[National Champion Chris Cole]

Hmm, never quite thought of it that way Lucky. You make great points. I wisdh they would have tried the show with new developments. I think Eric & Donna married could have worked. I would have loved to see Fez & Lori's fake wedding go somewhere. They still could have lived in Point Place and gravitated to the basement and had these other lives but the writers seemd to keep it all out.

[Lucky]

Yeah, I don't know that the show couldn't have matured. But they never tried. And they seemed completely aware that they should be maturing. Engagements, "Where is this relationship going?", pregnancies, careers. The stories moved past high school stuff and "Who am I going to prom with?" and "I need to get laid!" and "Who do we score beer?" But it was always 2 steps forward and 1 step back. The writers seemed to constantly be writing themselves into situations they didn't want to be in. Either they just couldn't figure out how to move them forward and keep them together or they enjoyed teasing stories and going halfway with things.

It was an amusing show but they clearly didn't have any mind for anything beyond the basic gags and back and forth. Donna and Eric were always a couple, and in order to prolong that they had to introduce occasional breakups or problems. Jackie was always "the bitchy girlfriend" or "jealous/angry ex" and not really one of the friends so in order to make that work without having her with the same guy mirroring Donna and Eric's staleness she had to bounce around between the guys. Kelso had to mature but remain the hapless idiot, so he has a child and his developing a career but then the kid goes away and he gets fired.

At some point its either the writers' intentions to never go anywhere or inability to figure out how to do it. Either way the show gets stale and the characters become less relatable.


On the other hand it had good years and it had hot chicks.