[Mikey]

One started off in a jobber tag team on Shotgun Saturday Night and has become perhaps the most popular wrestler on Raw. The other started off in a jobber tag team on Worldwide, was repackaged as the great and almighty Oz, and somehow survived to become one of just a handful of guys to win both the WWF and WCW World Titles. Who ya got?





Voting closes on Monday at 11:59 EST.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

This is tough. You have one guy who's great in the ring and shitty on the stick vs. one guy who's shitty in the ring and great on the stick.

[Batman]

Hardy's mic work has gotten a lot better.

Also, he had the match of his life on Monday.

[National Champion Chris Cole]

Right now it would be Hardy hands down. But over a career I'm going with Big Kev. I loved heel Diesel, hated face Diesel, but really liked WCW Kevin Nash.

[Mikey]

metallikid said:

Right now it would be Hardy hands down. But over a career I'm going with Big Kev. I loved heel Diesel, hated face Diesel, but really liked WCW Kevin Nash.

Smart man.

[The Canadian Content]

I still fail to understand all the Hardy love of late. People want them to put the belt on him? Seriously? When you've got Cena, HHH, HBK, and Jericho on that show -- any of whom would be a far more legitimate choice?

He endangers himself and his opponent every time he's in the ring, and his most devastating move is the Whisper in the Wind, which looks about as effective as it sounds. On top of that, as has been pointed out, he's awful on the mic.

[Batman]

Did you watch Raw this week?

[Batman]

Here, hopefully people will get a chance to see this before it gets pulled down:





If I wasn't a fan of Jeff because I didn't think his offense was convincing enough, this match would have changed my mind. Amazing.

[Mikey]

That was a PHENOMENAL no-sell at the end of the match.

I'm dead... I'm dead... I'm not dead.

[Batman]

He's not dead. He's just resting, like.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

BRING OUT YOUR DEAD

[Lucky]

psychofish said:

I still fail to understand all the Hardy love of late. People want them to put the belt on him? Seriously? When you've got Cena, HHH, HBK, and Jericho on that show -- any of whom would be a far more legitimate choice?

Forget recently. Have you watched RAW over the last two years?

Honestly, Hardy has been less of a risk taker and much more stable over the last year or so. He's added weight and his Swanton has real omph to it. And he's been pretty solid on the mic. He's basically put together a year or so of work that has never dropped below "solid", managed to pull great matches out of guys like Nitro and Umaga, and has been built up VERY well the last couple of months. He's red hot and he's not the spot blowing anorexic looking cokehead that he was a few years ago (or at least doesn't look it).


I have to go find and rewatch Hardy/Taker and then I'll decide which way I'm voting.

[gooker]

metallikid said:

Right now it would be Hardy hands down. But over a career I'm going with Big Kev. I loved heel Diesel, hated face Diesel, but really liked WCW Kevin Nash.

I've gotta agree with pretty much this whole sentiment. Give Hardy another 5-10 years and he could easily overtake Nash if he stays on his current path. But, when I really think about it, Hardy's really just had a pretty insane run since he's been back in WWE. He didn't do shit in TNA and he had gotten extremely underwhelming before he left WWE. Even though Nash obviously had some shitty times in his career, his "good" times outnumber Hardy's. Currently.

[Mikey]

"I'd go down there, but I'm sitting on a gas bubble."

[Lucky]

Does Nash's good really outweigh Hardy's? We're talking what? 2 years as Diesel, 2 years in WCW before he became booker, beat Goldberg, and was a bane on the company, and 1 year in TNA? Hardy has the last year and a half of WWE, 3 or 4 years of the Hardyz, and at least 6 months of good singles stuff with Taker, RVD, and HBK?

I mean, Hardy's young but he's been around for a decade and the Hardyz were doing great stuff for a long time. If you're just talking about how long they've been stars, sure Nash has him beat. But if you're talking about how much good they've done? Did he do ANYTHING that was good from '98 to '06? Ok, Coach Nash. But seems like if you really stacked up the pts for both guys they wouldn't be that far off.

Which is not to say that you can't just prefer Nash. That the nWo can't mean a lot. That Nash's backstage comedy is great. That Jeff may not be your thing. But Hardy needs another 5 or TEN years to overtake Nash? A 20 year career beats out what is basically a 6 year career before he became hobbled?

[Batman]

Thank you, Lucky, for making the case for Jeff.

It doesn't look like there's much chance for him (though you never know) but at least the case has been made.

[creepy]

To be completely honest, I usually agree with Lucky. Not sure who he's voting for, but he convinced me on Hardy.

As a tag-teamer or singles, high or grounded, mid level or main event. And he's never held the book.

[The Canadian Content]

sergeial said:

Did you watch Raw this week?

No. They've lost me again lately.

luckylopez said:

psychofish said:

I still fail to understand all the Hardy love of late. People want them to put the belt on him? Seriously? When you've got Cena, HHH, HBK, and Jericho on that show -- any of whom would be a far more legitimate choice?

Forget recently. Have you watched RAW over the last two years?

Honestly, Hardy has been less of a risk taker and much more stable over the last year or so. He's added weight and his Swanton has real omph to it. And he's been pretty solid on the mic. He's basically put together a year or so of work that has never dropped below "solid", managed to pull great matches out of guys like Nitro and Umaga, and has been built up VERY well the last couple of months. He's red hot and he's not the spot blowing anorexic looking cokehead that he was a few years ago (or at least doesn't look it).

My point with including Cena on that list is that he's more believable as a legit champ than Hardy is. Hardy's an IC guy. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. In fact, I'd love to see them build up a legit IC division. They've certainly got the manpower.

As for Hardy being less dangerous now than he used to be, I agree 100% -- but he's still dangerous. I don't like to cringe when I watch wrestling.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

psychofish said:

I don't like to cringe when I watch wrestling.

That's why I don't watch at all.

[DevSop]

Who's the one between these two to have wrestled in a 2-sided ring in Madagascar?

[gooker]

fsolomon75 said:

BRING OUT YOUR DEAD

Exalted.