[Mr. Dashbee]

[glow=red,2,300]Week 10 [/glow]

The object is simple. You rank your top 6 performers of the week. Inverted points are awarded for 1-6 (6 points for your #1, 5 points for your #2, etc.). The top 12 point getters will comprise the Pun's House 12-Pack! Some fun will also happen with historical rankings and brand rankings, so keep an eye out for Serge, Lucky & Demko's contributions as we start to develop some history.

A few ground rules:
-Posting is preferred (with some comments if you can, they are very important to the rankings!), but you can also PM me your votes if you like.
-Feel free disagree and discuss your opinions. Try not to trash others' opinions, this whole thing is subjective. If you do disagree, present some great counter arguments and get the discussion going.
-Ties are okay. But you must skip the next spot if there is a tie. You can't have more than 2 per ranking (no 6-way ties for first place), either. And know that your points will be divided up amongst those who are tied. For example: if you have two tied for 2nd place, they share the 2nd & 3rd points (5 pts + 4 pts = 9 pts, or 4.5 per ranked competitor in that tie). The most you can rank is 7, if you have a tie for 6th place. A three way tie for 5th place (with no 6th place) is acceptable as well. You can also have a 6-way tie for first, or even a 7-way tie for first. As long as the numbers work out to an even point or half point, I will use it. I'm like math...
-Only vote for a specific performer once. If they competed in different ways, or even for different promotions, consider their body of work as a whole. If this is done and not changed, only the higher vote will count for the current week.
-Feel free to link to or post video evidence or campaign for someone if you feel moved to do so. Lucky also has a great online wrestling content thread going here.
-It’s okay to change your rankings. But please PM me to let me know. I tabulate the points as we go along, so I might not realize you changed something if you don't let me know.
-If you're unsure about something, check-out prior voting & result threads found nearby. As always, feel free to ask in this thread or via PM.

Week 10 Specifics
-Eligibility period: Monday 6/2 - Sunday 6/8
-Voting closes at 11:59 PM Wednesday 6/11, Eastern time (9 PM, Arizona time for me). The results will be posted before you wake up Thursday (East Coast, at least).

Eligible shows from the "Big 3":
-WWE RAW
-ECW
-TNA Impact
-WWE Smackdown
-ROH Hartford & Philly (PPV Taping of "Respect is Earned II")
-TNA Slammiversary

Plus:
-Any online content involving recent events that started airing this week, including an ROH VideoWire, WWE Heat, and TNA Today videos. Many indies put out online content as well.
-Any indy or international shows that took place during the eligibility period.

Have fun, and vote away! As always, please pimp this out...

[Moreofabreadguyanyway]

1. Kaz- He was the MVP of my favorite match of the week and my favorite TV match of the year, and his match with Petey at the PPV was good too.

2. A.J. Styles- He had the match of the night with Kurt at Slammiversary, and on Impact he cut a nice intense promo and had a solid match with Tomko.

3. Kurt Angle- I put him behind A.J. because he wasn't quite as awesome on Impact, but I admire him for pulling out a great match despite obviously being in pain.

4. Batista- I was impressed by his promos and match on Smackdown. I loved his reactions to his mystery partners.

5. Samoa Joe- Good performance in KOTM, and I thought he cut a great pre-match promo.

6. Petey Williams- I found him getting cut off during his interview on Impact hilarious, and I mentioned already that I liked his match with Kaz a lot.

[iamdoug]

6.LAX - Two fun matches this week, and the sight of Homicide and Hernandez doing the double fly out of the ring always makes me smile.

5.Kaz - Had a great match on Impact and the second best match at Slamiversarry, It's a shame he only seems to win multiple person matches.

4.Kurt Angle - Was the second half of the match of the night on Sunday.

3.Petey Williams - The second most innovative wrestler in TNA, I love seeing what he can pull off in the ring.

2.Samoa Joe - Walked out of KOTM as the champ, and looked both strong and smart doing it.

1.AJ Styles - The new intense face AJ is awesome, I can't wait to see what's next.

HM - Christian - This guy is the high risk taker of the main event scene.

DM - The SoCal Val/ Jay Lethal wedding - The low point of Slammiversary, I'm hoping now we will see a real serious feud instead of these wastes of time in the x-division.

[bdbdbd]

6. Shelton Benjamin - If I didn't know better, I'd think WWE was serious about pushing him again. If the six-woman tag had gone a little shorter I'd have put him at 5 and Sydal at 6 because their match was that good. Without question, the most entertaining thing I saw on WWE television all week.

5. The Beautiful People (Angelina Love, Velvet Sky, and their mascot Moose) - More TNA stars that impressed on Thursday and again on Sunday. The Beautiful People's interviews amuse me to no end every week, notMickie Knuckles had a good beatdown entrance, and on Sunday the six woman tag a) was nice and lengthy II) was actually very well put together.


4. Christian Cage - My King of the Mountain MVP.

3. Latin American Exchange (Homicide, Hernandez, Hector Guerrero, & Salinas' boobs) - They did that crazy LAX shit Thursday and Sunday. If only they were in an angle worth a damn.

2. Kurt Angle - If he'd wrestled on Thursday, I'd have tied him for first. The man nearly killed himself on Sunday. Does he not want to live past 40?

1. A. J. Styles - The A.J. must stand for Awesome Job (No, I don't feel good about that) because he just seems to get better by the week. He had a great match on Thursday with his former partner, but even more importantly cut an intense promo that made his match more important than any other on the PPV by a long chalk. And he followed up by busting his ass on Sunday. I just worry that they won't promote him to the world title picture, something he so richly deserves.

HONORABLE MENTIONS The Big Show: He was funny, even if he didn't wrestle. La Familia, Batista and his Misfits: The finish was obvious, and there's no way the angle will turn into anything other than a standard 'Tista title shot in the long run (yawn) but it was fun while it lasted. Awesome Kong: I'm still enjoying it, and that's all that matters. Santino Marella: Made the best out of a stupid situation.

DISHONORABLE MENTION: The SmackDown Booker: Really? Another championship? For the nine women (three, maybe four competent) on those two brands?

[DevSop]

6b. Kurt Angle - Really great match with AJ even though he's got to clinically fucking insane at this point. Luckily for me I don't know Kurt Angle so if he wants to put his life on the line to entertain me...awesome.

6a. Kong and Saed - One kills people dead and the other says "SILENCE." I like it. I like it a lot.

5. Christian Cage - Someone above said the MVP of KotM and that may be true, but it's only because Cage, without question, has been the MVP of TNA for a long time now. Joe may be better, but Cage has an aura about him now that makes you take notice.

4. Beautiful People - Maybe the best heel stable in the two main brands right now. Velvet (I will try and stop calling her Talia) is getting better and better on the mic. Angelina is a very competant wrestler and also seems to be improving. And now with MOOSE (god, that's just great - Moose is a chick), they have someone who can take the big bumps for them with ODB. The one negative is that Moose will never be able to get a sympathetic reaction so I'm not sure what happens long-term.

3. Samoa Joe - Just because he truly busted out, "I am Samoa Joe...and I AM PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING." It's just such an awesome catchphrase. Simple, to the point, no bullshit needed for him. Then he went out to KotM and did something no one else has ever done.

2. Age of the Fall (Tyler Black, Necro Butcher, & Jimmy Jacobs) - I put them in that order because that's what I think about them now. A few weeks ago, I thought Jacobs was on fire and killing promos, but this Lacey & Aries stuff seems to be misfiring a bit. I don't know if it's that Lacey is key to the story yet hasn't been seen in weeks or just that Aries/Jacobs aren't clicking but that's not the point. The point is Tyler Black is a fucking star. From the match a few months ago with Dragon to the PPV Match with Nigel for the belt he had been growing in leaps and bounds. And now he's got the wins to go along with it. New ROH World Tag Team Champion w/Jacobs and it includes a 100% clean pinfall over Danielson. Just been so awesome to watch it.

1. AJ Styles - Actually a pretty close decision between 1 and 2 for me, but AJ's promo on Thursday clinched it. We've all seen goofball comedy AJ become someone comfortable talking in front of the camera. Impact was the first time I've seen focused and intense AJ be comfortable. The matches were just a bonus to that. It was predictable that he and Tomko would have good chemistry, but there was a part of me a little worried about Angle. There are just times when two great wrestlers who you assume will be amazing with one another just don't click. AJ and Kurt fucking clicked. Just a great match and TNA did not ruin it by having Karen turn on AJ or even be a "huge" factor. I know she cost Kurt, but it was well-done and AJ deserves all the #1 votes he'll get.

HM: Steenerico, Eddie Kingston, Serena Deeb, Josie, and Daffney - they all died good, and even Abyss...he looked good and the trifecta of Black Hole Slams especially on Petey and Rhaka were hit good.

DHM: Agree with the wedding. I don't know what TNA was trying to do but it got caught between comedy and serious and hit on neither. The legends were useless. Just a bad bad clusterfuck.

[jetskid48]

1. CM Punk - wrestled two good matches this week. Was the star of the best ECW episode between storyline and actual matches in a while.

2. Batista - Was not annoying at all this week. Looked very good in his 8 man match, promoed well enough. It's going to just be a standard no belt changing feud, but in standard draft month procedure, its not the worst they could do...Edge and him click well and lets face it...we're just treading water until Jericho or Punk is moved to fight Edge around Summerslam. NoC = Bats, GAB = ReyRey, SS = Jericho/Punk.

3. Shelton Benjamin - Had a nice match with a (not so) jobber in Sydal (who didn't look as smallish as projected). At the same time, had that sick powerbomb throw of him into Kofi...

4. Kofi Kingston - first real feud, and its actually starting to click now. Dug the post-match interactions between the two. And wow...ECW has a legit midcard feud. Lets hope for a real beginning, middle, and end to this one.

5. Jericho - He's just on fire now.

6 (t). Cena/Hardy - Enjoyable main event on a not so entertaining show.

HM:
Edge/Chavo's underlying tension - We'll see...
AJ Styles - best of the night, but he'll get enough votes without me.
Christian Cage - MVP of the KotM.
MVP - silently stalking...something...or just getting a nice seat while waiting to be transferred to Raw.
Miz/Morrison - I don't forget them.
Koko B Ware - bitched out Dutt by himself.
DiBiase/Rhodes - 3 weeks from mattering

DM:
The Wedding - because it was a joke.
The "Diva" title - Do I even have to say anything? But really...just move Victoria and Nattie to Raw (and McCool if you have to) and call it a day and let Matt Hardy have time to actually defend his title on his show. Smackdown Options 2A and 2B have to be on every show for it to actually work with such a non-deep brand.

[Tommy]

1) AJ Styles - He's come a long way in a year, yes?

2) Christian - MVP. That's all you have to say. He's the MVP of TNA and seems to relish his position on the card, no matter where he ends up. Maybe because he got the push he never did in WWE?

3) Petey Williams - Almost like they took the training wheels off this week. I was very disappointed they only teased the top rope Canadian Destroyer though.

4) Kurt Angle - Here's another guy who came in from the WWE, got the (deserved) monster push, and now has NO problem putting guys over. Plus he's still one of the best workers in the world. AJ/Kurt right now is my MOTY.

5) Awesome Kong - Do I even need to justify this? Don't you think she'd kill Chyna too? I am dying for the inevitable Melissa/Kong match.

6) Randy Orton - Thank you for getting injured.

DM: Chris Jericho, stop being a pussy and hit someone with a chair. The Wedding - TNA missed an opportunity to do something unique to start a feud and instead went to the old conventional standby. Yawn. Hopefully the matches are good.

[Attitude Adjuster]

Another meh week. Maybe it's me.

1) Samoa Joe. Because he did what nmost people thought he couldn't do and which had never been done before: Retain the TNA World Championship in the King of the Mountain match. It wasn't the greatest work of art, but it was a decent story.

2) Awesome Kong. Destroy Daffney. Destroy an MMA fighter. Destroy another Indy chick. Destroy Elvis. This is FUN!!! I really like that they're bringing in real wrestlers and having them be real wrestlers. It makes sense that an Indy wrestler would buy a ticket to take the $25,000 challenge. I really dig this angle.

3) Booker T. There was a point, as Booker was crushing everyone in sight with the belt, that I thought he had a chance to win the title. After all, he was the only one left standing in the ring and the champ had never retained. Oops...Booker, meet Mr. Nash.

4/5) AJ Styles/Kurt Angle. Hopefully the first of many of these matches. It set the tone and yet didn't give us a clear winner. Plus AJ came strong with the promo.

6) Batista. Well, it can't be an all-TNA Top 6, though the Beautiful People would probably be my No. 7. He beat up a bunch of bad guys while handcuffed to a bunch of jobbers. Or something like that. I heard it was the best thing WWE gave us this week.

[Mr. Dashbee]

Cashing in my ROH mark card this week, since I experienced it live...

1. Vickie Guerrero - The heel heat she garnered was amazing on Smackdown. I felt it was her best performance to date in the WWE.

2. Tyler Black - Won the ROH World Tag Team Championships with Jimmy Jacobs Friday night. Then, pinned Bryan Danielson to successfully defend those belts in what became a one-on-one match, and it will main event the next ROH PPV. Black's credibility in ROH is now firmly cemented, as he ended his second straight PPV taping with fans proclaiming him a future world champion. Okay, the fans proclaimed him the NEXT world champion. Not so much, but he is indeed a future world champ.

3. Samoa Joe - Did what has never been done before and retained the TNA World Championship in the King of the Mountain match. Storyline wise, this is the biggest accomplishment of the week.

4. TIE - Roderick Strong and Erick Stevens - More ROH love here, as Roderick and Erick basically beat the shit out of each other for nearly 25 minutes, then Roderick superplexed Erick off of a 20 foot ladder through two tables. I think Stevens actually dies for a moment in the ring, that's how brutal it looked. Both men got counted down on the mat to 9, then Strong barely draped his arm over Stevens to get the pin. And imaginary bonus points to Roderick for sticking around (when he apparently was suffering from cracked ribs) so he can turn down Larry Sweeney's offer to join Sweet & Sour Inc, turn face, and get jumped by turncoat stablemate Davey Richards. All with broken ribs.

6 - Kevin Steen & El Generico - Booked as heroes in the ROH tag title tournament, the crowd support was amazing in all 3 of their matches: the near 20 minute time limit draw that would have eliminated them in the first round (ending with Steen making ROH World Champ Nigel McGuinness tap), the injuries both men suffered before heading to the semifinals, the surprise roll-up to win in the semis and make the finals, Steen fighting by himself when Generico got carted away due to injury, Generico's return, complete with an ice pack taped to his shoulder, the crowd going nuts for their Package Piledriver/Brainbustah combo, and the multitude of trash thrown in the ring when they didn't win. They then followed it up with a big tag team win to open the PPV the next night. Not winning the world tag team titles was probably the difference between #1 and #6 for one of the best teams in the entire world.

HM:

Kaz - Big win in the X-division KOTM match, followed up by a great performance on PPV. I was shocked he didn't win the X-division title, but I still see big things in store for Kaz.

Shelton Benjamin - For his use of a weapon, namely Matt Sydal, on Kofi during ECW.

AJ Styles - hard to NOT include him this week, but there was just too much going for those who did get ranked. AJ is still gold. I'm all for a face vs. face/tweener AJ vs. Joe title match main eventing a PPV near the end of the year.

The Beautiful People of Velvet Sky, Angelina Love and MOOSE! - They could be #1 just for having their mascot named Moose! They continue to shine in the already great Knockouts division.

[Batman]

I finally got around to watching the second half of Slammiversary and was going to start working on my ballot and took a look at this thread (which I had been avoiding for Slammiversary spoiler reasons) and... I should probably watch ECW this week, shouldn't I?

Back in a bit....

[Lucky]

Yeah, I gotta finish watching SD. Then I have to try to remember what happened before Slammiversary because with the heat and my schedule my brain is toast the last couple of weeks. I fell asleep in my chair in chat last night.

Jun 10, 2008 1:50:25 GMT -5 Mr. Dashbee said:

Cashing in my ROH mark card this week, since I experienced it live...

1. Vickie Guerrero - The heel heat she garnered was amazing on Smackdown. I felt it was her best performance to date in the WWE.

Man, I've been rading on the web for weeks about all this awesome heel heat Vickie's been getting and how great it is. And I've been watching. And I'm not sure I agree with the idea of "X-Pac Heat" but I do believe this. Jeff Jarrett was a very talented heel who did a real good job once upon a time drawing heat. But by the end of his run he was being mercilessly booed because the TNA fans were sick to death of him screwing up the card and having a strangle hold on shitty stories that went nowhere. They booed him not because he was a great heel but because he was doing such an unsatisfying job entertaining them that they wanted him gone.

I don't think Vickie is a talented heel. Otherwise? Eh, I could be wrong. I guess some people are enjoying this. I'm just hoping Edge dumps the broad after 6 months of this shit so I can actually not dread seeing one of the best performers come on the screen.

Jun 9, 2008 20:28:26 GMT -5 Attitude Adjuster said:

Another meh week. Maybe it's me.

I don't think it was a terribly special week but it was a week that seemed to wrack up a lot of good wrestling. Cena vs Hardy, Benjamin vs Sydal, X Division KotM, AJ vs Tomko, Petey vs Kaz, AJ vs Angle. Nothing seemed to click for me this week and I think that probably has to do with the aforementioned "brain is toast" and my inability to really focus this week. But all of those matches taken out of context just feel like a lot more good wrestling we tend to get in a week. And the PPV really only was responsible for a couple of them. Every show managed to deliver us something fun.

If someone put together a 2 hour show of all the week's highlights I think I would have liked this week's more than usual. Even without my head managing to go with any fluid storytelling or pacing.

[snelson66]

Gotta agree with Lucky on the Vickie Guererro "heat". It's not her performance, it's that the crowd/fans (besides SkidJets) are sick to death of her.

DM: Kaz (his move-set sucks, his ring attire sucks especially the weird ass jacket, and I just wish he'd go away), Vince McMahon (thanks for making it sound like wrestling fans are nothing but geeks and rednecks... which I happen to be, but still...)

HM: George "The Animal" Steele (still got the green tongue and I always enjoy a good turnbuckle feast), Curry Man (just because I enjoy the hell out of the gimmick), MCMG (because they shouldn't be relegated to PPV dark matches), Petey Williams (Thank you for pounding the crap out of Kaz)


6.) Awesome Kong (TNA Impact! and TNA Slammiversary) - Kong is gonna kill you. It's true. It's damn true. Just ask Daffney, Josie, etc.

5.) C.M. Punk (ECW on Sci-Fi) - Nice couple of matches. At least Mr. Money in the Bank isn't jobbing this week.

4.) Christian Cage (TNA Impact! and TNA Slammiversary) - It's been stated before... he's the MVP of TNA. He's the one that kept the King of the Mountain match moving. Joe was surprisingly a non-factor for a lot of it.

3.) LAX [Homicide, Hernandez, Hector Guererro and Salinas] (TNA Slammiversary) - I loves me the bouncing boobies of Salinas and mark for Air SuperMex. How does a man that large and strong fly that well? I think Hernandez now takes over the "agile big man" moniker from Kane.

2.) Kurt Angle (TNA Slammiversary) - He and A.J. really overshadowed the main event at the PPV Sunday. Hope his neck and mental state stay healthy.

1.) A.J. Styles (TNA Impact! and TNA Slammiversary) - Great promos, nice kick-ass match with Tomko on Thursday and his match with Kurt at the PPV is a MOTY candidate. Plus he keeps taking some nice beatdowns.

[Batman]

1) A. J. Styles

2) Kurt Angle - Damn good match, but I expect even better from them once Angle's more healed up.

3) Awesome Kong - Now that's some damn fine squash.

4) Karen Angle - Teasing the swerve of standing by her man yet again, but then costing him the match was the perfect way to end the match but prolong the feud.

5) Matt Sydal - A fun little match and a great way to debut on national TV.

6) Jeff Hardy - Looking good back in the main event.


HM) John Cena - Best match he's had in a long time.
Chris Jericho - His subtle, long term storytelling is cooking along nicely.
LAX - The match didn't quite click ever, but their offense is always fun to watch.

[Deadly]

1. A.J. Styles
2. Christian Cage
3. Kurt Angle
4. Samoa Joe
5. Little Petey Pump
6. Kaz

[jetskid48]

Jun 10, 2008 12:03:33 GMT -5 snelson66 said:

Gotta agree with Lucky on the Vickie Guererro "heat". It's not her performance, it's that the crowd/fans (besides SkidJets) are sick to death of her.

I'd love to see where I even placed an opinion on the Vickie Guerrero like or dislike other than generically stating the heat she is getting on Smackdown each week. This would be the same thing as me saying you enjoyed the SCV/JL wedding because you wrote that the crowd popped for Kamala.

[Mr. Dashbee]

I stand by it, Vickie's heat is 100% legit. People stopped to listen to what she had to say, and reacted to it. Vickie sucked at her start, and people aren't really viewing her objectively.

She now has the mannerisms down, talks more comfortably, and now appears to BE a GM, she's not just PLAYING the GM character.

Vickie is over as a heel, and deserves to be commended for her improvements.

[bdbdbd]

I like Vickie the GM too,

[Lucky]

Hey, if you guys like her, ok. I think she may one of the worst performers in wrestling and she is a large reason I haven't sat and watched an episode of SD in over 6 months. And I just find it hard to believe that she's drawing heat on par with some of greatest heels of all time and well beyond any authority figure has since Vince vs Austin. I mean maybe she's a good performer and I'm not seeing it, but better than Bischoff, Vince, Heyman, Steph, Regal, etc? Damn.

Like I said, different strokes. But when I hear the crowd rabidly against her on a show that was one of the least entertaining 2 hours of wrestling I've seen in a long time I just flashback to the Impact Zone wanting Jarrett dead so that the company could change and the horrible feeling I had when I saw a silver lining in his wife dying.

On to my ballot. My brain's still fried and my picks will be repeats, so I'll keep it short.

T5) LAX, Shelton Benjamin, and The Beautiful People - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 3 way tie. What can I say, I'm starting to agree with AA. It as a meh week and I can't come up with 6 standouts even with a PPV. And a lot of the guys people are naming don't stand out to me at all. But it did have a lot of little fun stuff and these 3 were a part of that. Its mostly just them doing what they do so well, but they did it. The Beautiful People were bitches and even with a crummy promo the introduction of Moose and a couple of good matches helped the wrestling week. Shelton did his usual stuff that I enjoy to a guy who can really work and had a nice and memorable little spot throwing Sydal into Kofi. LAX just did their routines with the Super Mex and the tope con hilo and Salinas bobbing up and down and etc. But it was fun and they make it on the Punk Principle. (Ironically CM Punk did not make it on the Punk Principle because I swear I don't remember even one of his matches even though it sounds like he had 2. Go figure.)

4) Angle - PPV match.

3) Matt Sydal - He had a nice and memorable debut match in a loss. In WWE. I really don't remember the last guy to debut with a loss and it seem to matter. You know, besides that other runt on ECW. I'm just so used to a guy debuting with a couple of wins and then falling to Heat or someone getting the Dibiase treatment of walking right into a title. Here's to them doing something slightly different and interesting with a very talented guy.


2) AJ Styles - As said, very good match on Sunday, pretty good match on Thursday, and I love him finding his balls and think he's nailing it very well.

1) Kaz - He was a part of what were probably my two favorite matches of the week. "Favorite" is kind of screwy because I'm not sure I loved anything this week, but two of the matches I most enjoyed. His win was kind of obvious in X-KotM but he's gotten pretty good at standing out in those matches for more than just getting the pinfall. And the Kaz/Petey match just sucked me in midway through and got really cool. Too bad Kaz once again walked away from it with nothing to show and we all presume he'll job to Joe Thursday and then go back to the routine. 2 months of nothing, 1 month super push that goes nowhere, 2 months of nothing, 1 month super push that goes...

[wld]

1.) A.J. Styles – He just keeps getting better.
2.) Samoa Joe – Kept the title through King of the Mountain.
3.) Awesome Kong – I like the way they’re ramping up her opponents. A dominant Women’s Champion andan interesting storyline. Wow.
4.) Christian – I can’t put it any better than has already been said – MVP of TNA.
5.) LAX – Not the greatest spot in terms of storytelling, but they more than make up for it with what they do in the ring.
6.) Shelton Benjamin –I hope this means he’s getting another shot at a push.

[bdbdbd]

Jun 10, 2008 19:52:06 GMT -5 Lucky said:

I just find it hard to believe that she's drawing heat on par with some of greatest heels of all time and well beyond any authority figure has since Vince vs Austin. I mean maybe she's a good performer and I'm not seeing it, but better than Bischoff, Vince, Heyman, Steph, Regal, etc? Damn.

What? Did I miss something? Who said that?

I just said I like her work on SmackDown, especially of late. I mean, I also liked Cade and Mudoch when they were doing the sportsmen gimmick, but saying that doesn't mean I'm putting them above or even on par with The Outsiders or Hollywood Blondes.

[Lucky]

No, I'm saying she IS drawing heat on par with Mr. McMahon in his prime. She IS drawing more heat than any of those past heel authority figures. So the question is the nature of that heat. G-B thinks its legit reaction to a heel character the fans love to hate. I find it easier to believe that they just want her the fuck gone and boo her because she sucks. But if you think its legit heat then doesn't it stand to reason that if she draws bigger heat than Regal than she's better at her job than Regal?

That's my point. I think Jarrett was a good heel but the reason people were throwing trash in the ring and cursing his name and not letting him talk in 2006 was because they were sick to death of him. Bischoff had a great heel run in WWE but he was a fucking chore in WCW and people wanted him gone. Not because of what he was doing to the wrestlers or personalities... because of what he was doing to the fans. I'm just inclined to think its the same reason Vickie is getting booed worse than any heel has in WWE in many years.

Like I said, I'm not trying to call into question you enjoying her. I'm just trying to identify the majority. What makes those people boo her so incessantly? If its her skill as a heel authority figure then she's one of the best heels I've seen in wrestling in a long time. I just find that tough to swallow.


EDIT: My real thing with Vickie isn't that I think she's a shitty talker in a shitty storyline with no payoff that doesn't seem shitty. Its that for all that heel heat she's getting I don't think she's been half the heel authority figure that Estrada or Regal were in recent memory. Or really, most of the heel authority figures. She's helped Edge out a bunch and booked quite a few handicap matches, but she hasn't been firing people and making lives miserable as best as I remember. That's what WWE GMs have come to be known for. Even Coach would go out of his way to fuck with people and he was just comedy relief. But Vickie's intentions seem to be basically sincere besides a protectiveness for Edge. Hell, her stripping Taker was actually pretty reasonable. He WAS using an illegal choke with blatant disregard for the health of his peers. He DID win the title with an illegal move.

AND she's been the victim of multiple vicious attacks from the Undertaker that SHOULD make him a heel.

AND she's basically the victim of the Edge/Vickie story presuming Edge really is using her to help his career. She's an older widow having her affections toyed with.

So short of telling me that SD's audience are largely people who hate women or older women or widows or hispanics or something, I don't get why she's THIS hated. I mean, I think the Estrada/Colin story was shitty because the heel was basically giving the face chance after chance to earn a contract after he had proven he wasn't up to snuff. But at least there he was clearly getting off on watching the kid get destroyed. But even booking him against monsters and his friends wasn't unfair. If Colin can't beat Dreamer he shouldn't be in WWE and if he can't hang with Shelton Benjamin or Mike Knox what can he add to the brand? So I don't think Estrada was being much of a heel in that story besides being a sadist.

But Vickie's only true heel actions are her devotion to a man we presume is lying to her and using her. So why would I boo her character? Or at least why would I boo her character worse than every other manipulative heel GM?

[bdbdbd]

I don't think she's been drawing that much heat until recently, starting when she was put in direct contention with the Undertaker and anyone going up against a face Undertaker is going to get booed out of the building, especially when you strip him of his title. Yeah, she had a legit reason (as far as wrestling goes) but he's still the Undertaker and you know how wrestling fans can be for certain characters.

[Demko]

6T) George 'The Animal' Steele - Hasn't missed a single beat since the 1980's. He forgot to bring out 'Mine' through.

6T) Kaz - I like that they're pushing someone out of the X-Division up into the main event scene. I think I'd rather it be Jay Lethal, but I'll take what I can get, especially since he's all tied up now with Dutt.

5) Mickie Knuckles - With a name like Moose (HA!), and taking the bumps she took, I like her. I'm looking forward to a knockouts division with her in it. If they can somehow manage to activate the sympathy gene in her, they might just have a contender for Kong's title. Looks like they might have teased that briefly in the 6-person tag at Slammiversary.

4) Awesome Kong - They need to pull the trigger on an actual contender for the $25K soon, if not by the next PPV. Otherwise, I think it'll drag on a bit too long.

3) Booker T - I was thinking in a few spots that they might actually give him the title during KotM on Sunday. And during those few fleeting moments, I thought he might actually deserve it. But not yet.

2) Samoa Joe - "I AM PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING!" - Nothing else needs saying.

1) AJ Styles - Perfect way to continue this feud. I half-though Angle should have won, but I think Angle chasing AJ for the win is actually better than the other way around.

[creepy]

1. Morrison
2. Mizz
3. AJ
4. Murdoch
5. Benoit
6. Christian

[Batman]

Do you have to post right before passing out drunk every night?

(In this case perhaps after passing out? Hard to tell....)