[Mr. Dashbee]

[glow=yellow,2,300]Week 17[/glow]

Welcome to the simplified 12-Pack voting thread. If you want/need the full run down, check out any of the old voting threads, drop me a PM or ask your question in here and any of us will be glad to answer.

Eligibility Info
Ranking Period: July 21 – July 27
WWE: RAW, ECW, Smackdown!
TNA: Impact
ROH: Toronto & Detroit (PPV taping)
Plus any indy, international shows and new online content

What To Do?
-Rate your Top 6 performers of the past week (Monday through Sunday)
-Indicate your #1 brand for the past week
-Please provide comments for your rankings, they are making a comeback!

Basic Rules
-Tag teams can be together, even if they are short term/one time deal
-Opponents, although working together in reality, cannot be considered together
-2-way ties are okay at any ranking, just eliminate the next spot (ex: 2 way tie for first place means no second place person)
-3 way ties for 5th place are also kosher, as is a 2-way tie for 6th play (this is the only way to actually rank 7 talents instead of 6)
-Voting is open until 12 midnight EST Wednesday, with results posted during that night.

Comments and others receiving votes are making a comeback this week. So let me see some great comments! But first, let’s vote! Me first…

[Mr. Dashbee]

6. Kelly Kelly - Seems like someone is slowly teaching this girl how to wrestle. That, plus the fact that she won't mind posing nude, and I think she has a future outside of just being eye candy. We'll see...

5. Santino Marella - Santino = comedy gold. I almost want the angle with Beth Phoenix to end just so we can see what he moves on to next.

4. Evan Bourne - One of the most talented wrestlers on the roster, and they're actually using him somewhat effectively. Amazing.

3. Matt Hardy - Is he getting the ECW ball to run with soon? Hopefully he'll get a long program with Mark Henry (did I just say that?) and get a long run with the title.

2. The Beautiful People - Their work in the series with Taylor Wilde was great, and their characters continue to grow.

1. Nigel McGuinness - I know this won't be the popular choice, but the man overcame huge storyline odds this past weekend to retain his title. First, he faced Kevin Steen, a Candaian, IN CANADA, with the added factor that Steen has guaranted he will win gold in 2008. Then, he faced Claudio Castagnoli with Claudio's self imposed "I shouldn't stick around in ROH if I don't win" stipulation. Historically, these types of scenarios have indicated title changes in ROH. But not this time.

Brand of the Week: TNA - There were a lot of elements of Impact that I enjoyed, from the Knockouts title match to the Tables Elimination Match to some of the Joe-Booker interplay. TNA stands out for me. I really wanted to put ROH here, but I wasn't as impressed with the PPV taping as I thought I'd be (although that was only based on reading results).

[Lucky]

Wait, did Nigel drive Claudio out of ROH? Crap, I may have to make him MY #1 if that's true. I haven't seen a more boring wrestler in ROH since John Walters Matt Striker Danny Maff... nope, they were all better.

[Eric O'Mac]

HM: Jeremy Borash for being a class act at a TNA House Show I went to this past weekend.
Kelly Kelly - for putting on a match that didn't suck and looking like she's learning.
Taylor Wilde - for being absolutely gorgeous in person and for retaining her title 3 times in one night.

DM: Earl Hebner for being a complete dick.

6.The Beautiful People - Hey, Velvt Sky lost a few times, but they were still absolutely gold. I DARE YOU to say otherwise.
5.Consequences Creed - My main man was on TV again AND he won!!!
4.D'Lo Brown - Welcome back D'Lo. That Frog Splash still looks as good as ever.
3.Matt Hardy - Sure, you lost a title, but you got a title shot at the biggest party of the summer in a great multi man match.
2.Great Khali - Not a popular pick, but he did win a battle royal with some pretty big names in it, and he's going to Summerslam to face Triple H.
1.Kurt Angle - Had a great outing on TNA, but this is more of a personal pick - he treated me and my brother like family at a TNA House Show, talking to us with respect and seemed generally as appreciative of us as we were of him. Our picture together will always be a cherished memory.

Unless he goes Benoit on us.

Brand of the week: TNA Which should surprise no one. Although Raw was better this past week, and has given me things to look forward to, TNA was much more impressive.

[National Champion Chris Cole]

Jul 28, 2008 14:10:12 GMT -5 Eric O'Mac said:

Taylor Wilde - for being absolutely gorgeous in person and for retaining her title 3 times in one night.


6.The Beautiful People - Hey, Velvt Sky lost a few times, but they were still absolutely gold. I DARE YOU to say otherwise.

I'm a huge fan of Beautiful People but I found last week to be one of the weaker efforts. Maybe it is my apathy towards Taylor Wilde. Can I start calling her "Rollup" Wilde?

[Batman]

D'Lo?

I completely forgot to watch Raw, didn't I? Fuck, I'll be back to this in a few hours....

[Tommy]

1) MVP - As per my notes on last week's thread, he gets a top-6 vote for the rest of the year for last week. "A Pimp Named Slickback" was that good.
2) Shantelle Rollup - I thought the 2 wins in 25 seconds was funny.
3) Consequences Creed - Push please.
4) Brian Kendrick - Quietly (because it was on SD!) had the match of the week. A VERY entertaining squash.
5) BOOKAH~! - Booker continues to being the mic goodness every week. This week took on Joe AND Nash, and IMO won.
6) Tommy Dreamer - WON A MATCH!

Wow, that's 3 WWE guys. Who knew? - Brand of the week: Smackdown! by a lot; between MVP/J.Hardy and the Edge stuff; it was pretty solid from top to bottom. Although, if you have Nattie Neidhart, why do you run out Maryse to wrestle McCool?

[Byrntrigan]

6. The Beautiful People - I'll be damned if they are being heels so good that I forget that they are, well, beautiful. Plus, they plass ass really well. I wonder if they'll show Taylor trying to collect the $5000 she just "won"

5. Christian Cage - He was always good in the WWF. But damn if he hasn't picked up his game in the last year or so.

4. Prince Justice League - This SHOULD be fucking stupid. But honestly, the "frapping diky" talk of Curry Man is actually funny. I know I shouldn't laugh but, it's funny in a weird way. Viva la old fashioned racism!

3. Tyler Wilde - They are really piling on the underdog-ness of her character. But they need to be carefull. One more episode of underdogness could turn from plucky to flukey.

2. Beer Money INC. - Awesome. Just awesome. That was the BEST strap match I ever saw. They worked their asses off getting whipped and have raised their game, dare I say it, they are a REAL tag team now. Not just 2 singles paired together.

and this week's Number 1, cinch, lock, Pick O' the Week...

[glow=yellow,12,300]Murder City Machine Guns[/glow]

This was the BEST strap match I've ever seen. It was a high-spot strap match that was fast-paced and brutal in spots.

I hope this leads to PPV-length strap match. If they amped up the spots and added some brutality and blood that be a keeper. I wonder if there's ever been a strap match where everyone is tied together.

Brand 'O' the Week: TNA

To be fair I didn't watch anything else this week, but TNA came back with an entertaining show that made me not vote for ROH.

MTA: Comments forthcoming...

[Tommy]

From what I've seen so far, I'm gonna guess a lot of people didn't watch SD!.

[Lucky]

Man, I can't remember shit that entertained me last week. Of course I'm burned out as fuck so that may be why.

6) Taylor Wilde - I guess 3 wins and being hot has to count for something.

5) Nigel McGuinness - Apparently he made Claudio a loser who should leave ROH. Good enough for me.

4) D'Lo Brown - Welcome back, big man. Here's to WWE giving lots of black guys jobs and pushes to prove they're really not as racist as they would seem to be by employing a drunk racist as a top creative mind!

3) Motor City Machine Guns - They cut a pretty damn good promo and then a decent match.

2) The Beautiful People - They're kind of awesome.

1) MVP - He really was good on the mic and I'm digging his interactions with SD players, even if I couldn't give a fuck what he does after the segment ends because he has no direction. Shame there wasn't an actual match I wanted to vote on this week.

Brand: TNA? I dunno. I know SD didn't do a lot for me, I once again can't remember ECW, and I watched RAW in pieces I think.

I don't know. I really am burned out and I don't remember much from last week. I reserve the right to change this up drastically if I rewatch some stuff or remember a match I actually liked.

[bdbdbd]

6. D'Lo Brown - fun return, if only for nostalgia purposes at this point

5. Shelton Benjamin - I don't like the name of his finish, mostly because it's stupid, but i do love to watch him work. I don't know why they don't actually put him in a program with someone instead of having him cut promos where he repeats what his music just said, but, whatever.

4. Beer Money Inc. - Followed a fun match with a strap beating which a brutal beating which was actually a bit hard to watch at one point.

3. Montel Vontavious Porter - I wish he had some direction to him. He opened SmackDown in a way that made me want to watch the rest of the show (which didn't dissapoint, actually) but was relegated to the Battle Royale, didn't do a whole lot in it (if memory serves) and will probably end up doing the same next week. I have horrid visions of him being pushed back down the card to the US title and Shelton Benjamin.

2. The Beautiful People - If I keep voting for them they will have sex with me. Or at least each other and let me watch.

1. Team 3D and Kurt Angle - I thought the promo was better than the Guns, mostly because there were no goofy Londrick/Avatar masks, and they were the best part of the main event match.

Brand: SmackDown

[Mr. Dashbee]

A few notes:

-- To be fair to the show, I didn't catch Smackdown! I think MVP would be on my list if I had...

-- Lucky, it looks like ROH is going with the "you can have one final shot" angle with Claudio. They've done that before... (Nigel's quest for the pure title, Danielson vs. Gibson, Homicide vs. Danielson, Nigel again vs. Morishima...) so we'll see how that plays out. I don't dislike Claudio as much as you do, but I don't see him as the ROH World Champion.

-- bd, whether or not Team 3D & Angle are thrown together is really up to the voters. Right now, no one has lumped them together. If someone does, then the votes get combined. So right now, I'll only count them in with Angle if you want me to.

-- Votes are very spread out right now, making for a strange current #1. But thanks to everyone for a) the comments and b) the brand vote.

[DevSop]

Didn't watch SD, RoH results didn't do a lot for me.

6t) Taylor Wilde
6t) Kelly Kelly

5) Santino & Beth

4) Nigel McGuinness

3) D-Lo Brown

2) Beautiful People

1) Machine Guns

[bdbdbd]

I had it as Team 3D with Kurt Angle but changed it at the last minute, I'll change it back if it'll make a difference.

[National Champion Chris Cole]

Brand of the Week: TNA. Two awesome matches make it the easy winner this week.

1. Motor City Machine Guns - they DOMINATED the strap match. I'd never seen a more exciting strap match in my life.

2. Angle & Team 3D - Kurt Angle is proving that even without the title he is TNA. The Dudleys are so much more interesting interacting with Angle then they have been in years.

3. Styles, Christian, and Rhino - The tables match was really good and their promo prior to the match was also good.

4. Matt Hardy - ECW continues its streak of having a better match on its card then Raw. They had the best WWE match of the week by a mile.

5. Consequences Creed - Made a match that I had no real desire to watch very entertaining.

6. Beer Money - sold like hell for MCMG and picked up the W.

Honorable Mentions

Chris Jericho - He is on his game each and every week. The only reason he missed the list was because of all the great matches on Impact.

Dibiase & Rhoades - verbal assault on Duggan & Lawler was entertaining.

CM Punk - Before the crappy non finish Punk looked very strong against Batista. They should have given him the win. It would also have made Cena's comments last night make a ton more sense.

D'lo Brown - Welcome back. I was never his biggest fan but at this point any reminder of a better time is a welcome one.

Miz & Morrison - they layed their roles in the fourway well. I loved them trying to stab each other in the back.

Finlay - the last member of WWE's best match of the week.

Brian Kendrick - I like his new look and new persona. I hope this leads to something. Now they need to give London a new push over on Raw.

[Lucky]

Jul 29, 2008 2:01:26 GMT -5 Mr. Dashbee said:

-- Lucky, it looks like ROH is going with the "you can have one final shot" angle with Claudio. They've done that before... (Nigel's quest for the pure title, Danielson vs. Gibson, Homicide vs. Danielson, Nigel again vs. Morishima...) so we'll see how that plays out. I don't dislike Claudio as much as you do, but I don't see him as the ROH World Champion.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

If Nigel not only failed to get Claudio out of ROH but actually just paved the way for his title win I may have to kick him off my ballot.

I had forgotten about Santino/Beth and that was amusing. And I guess I can rewatch the 6 man table match and see if that was better than I remember.

[Batman]

1) Jericho - I've never even really been a Jericho mark. Maybe that's finally changed. His promos are week-in and week-out the best thing going in wrestling right now.

2) Kendrick - The kid has got the ball and MAN is he running. Cut his first heel promo and had his second heel match Friday, and the arrogance just oozes off of him. JR said that he reminded him of somebody, and I said--'cause I talk to my TV sometimes--if you say Shawn Michaels, then you win the crown, King Obvious. But instead, he compared him to Pillman. I never would have thought of that, but it's an interesting point--he's kind of like a cross between between the swagger of old HBK and the wildness of the Loose Cannon.

Also, in a big old fuck-you to Alex Shelley, he is now calling the "Sliced Bread #2" the "Kendrick."

3) Evan Bourne - He's a regular on my list, as his match is always fun to watch each week, whether he's getting a big upset over Chavo last week, or taking out a much-bigger job guy this week. And I usually don't even watch jobber matches, much less rank them.

4) MCMG - Even though they ended up just getting whipped in the end--a cheap heat tactic I'm really starting to get tired of--they showed off some really unique and creative strap spots along the way.

They also cut a really good promo before the match--kind of a weird promo, but good. Interesting. Kind of a quiet approach to telling everyone just how dangerous they really are.

Also, Shelley mocked Roode's credibility as a so-called Wall Street whiz, asking "what did you invest in, Soul-Glo?"

Line. Of. The. Week.

5) Kozlov - Admittedly, in Stevie and Jamie he has had some really talented JTTSs helping him along, but I can't keep giving his opponent all of the credit. His matches are really getting good. It's time for him to move up into a genuinely competitive program.

6) Killings - It was just an introduction spot, and I'm not sure how i feel about the direction they're going with him already, but--THE SUNTAN SUPERMAN IS BACK ON MY TV!!! YEAH!

Show - I'm really unhappy with the way Punk isn't being given a chance to prove himself a worthy champ, but the other shows have their negatives, too. On the whole, I'm still giving it to Raw.

[Mr. Dashbee]

Jul 29, 2008 5:15:06 GMT -5 bdbdbd said:

I had it as Team 3D with Kurt Angle but changed it at the last minute, I'll change it back if it'll make a difference.

It doesn't matter at this point. It's completely up to you. I'll keep it as just Team 3D unless you say otherwise.

[bdbdbd]

Changed it.

[Mr. Dashbee]

Jul 29, 2008 3:55:02 GMT -5 DevSop said:

Didn't watch SD, RoH results didn't do a lot for me.

So what's your pick for the top brand of the week?

[Demko]

6T. Beth Phoenix - Who knew she had a comedy streak?
6T. Santino Marella - Keeps me laughing. Plus, he's earned the nickname 'Douchestache' from me in chat.
5. Afa Jr. (FCW) - My first time seeing him live, and I was impressed.
4. D'Lo Brown - He hasn't even skipped a beat since he left the WWE.
3. Undertaker - Yeah, I know he didn't show up anywhere, but the mere mention of his name makes me mark out every time.
2. MVP - I really like his development, considering where I thought he'd be by now.
1. Chris Jericho - More and more heelish by the week.

Brand of the week: Raw.

ETA: Oh crap... I just realized it was Wednesday already. I guess this one won't count. :-/

[wld]

1.) Motor (Murder) City Machine Guns – Awesome promo and a great match
2.) The Beautiful People – Losing multiple times in one segment should have made them look silly, but they pulled it off.
3.) Jericho – It’s to see someone trying so hard to be hated, rather than a “cool heel” who gets cheers
4.) Beer Money – the other half of a great match. The whole really is greater than the sum of the parts.
5.) D-Lo Brown – Welcome Back!
6.) Taylor Wilde – I’m amazed (and pleased) that TNA is already building new stars in the Knockout Division, and Taylor is making the most of the opportunity.

Brand – TNA – TNA has become the one wrestling show that I look forward to and go out of my way to see, and I think I’ve figured out why: Every week somebody (often more than one) steps up and does something awesome, either inside the ring or in a promo. The best part is I never know who it’ll be, and it makes me interested in the whole show.

[Ultimatejobber]

6. Jamie Noble

5. Kurt Angle

4. MCMG

3. Matt Hardy

2. MVP

1. Chris Jericho

Brand: TNA

[Lucky]

I keep going over this to see if I want to change my ballot and I'm just so heartbroken that someone actually likes the "Prince Justice League." That just makes me so sad. Especially since I've remember where I've heard that name before and now its so obvious what the painful next step of this story is.

[Eric O'Mac]

I don't like the league as a team - just Stone Cold Shark Boy and Curry Man interacting.