[Mr. Dashbee]

It's being reported that Stevie Richards, Robbie & Rory of The Highlanders, Colin Delaney, Cherry and referee Wes Adams were released.

Obviously Stevie is the biggest deal of everyone, although I always thought The Highlanders had a lot of upside.

[Angle]

STEVIE!!!!! NO!!!!

Now only Dreamer remains.

[Byrntrigan]

Stevie would be fun in TNA. Damn WWE, what the fuck. It's not like their hurting for money. Or are they?

Will Panda Energy buy WWE? ;D

[bdbdbd]

Jesus, do they bother to make long term booking plans? They were pushing Colin Delaney last week. Same thing happened to Shannon Moore, and Stevie Richards was getting the "he was awesome, and really oughta rise and kick some ass with the right breaks" talk from Ross and Foley last time he was on SmackDown.

[gooker]

Aug 15, 2008 13:08:42 GMT -5 bdbdbd said:

and Stevie Richards was getting the "he was awesome, and really oughta rise and kick some ass with the right breaks" talk from Ross and Foley last time he was on SmackDown.

So that's where he went wrong!

Seriously, none of them will be a big loss. I am a little surprised by Delaney though. He gets the crap kicked out of him for months, turns heel.....and then he's gone. I guess they saw more upside in Evan Bourne in the "small guy who can take out the giants" role.

I would love to see Stevie in TNA. And here's a thought - Give him a fuckin' mic and let the bastard do one of the best things he's got and TALK every now and then. If they let him do his goofy/hilarious character he perfected in ECW and give him another Blue Meanie-esque lacky, I'd be happy.

[Byrntrigan]

Aug 15, 2008 13:37:01 GMT -5 gooker said:

Aug 15, 2008 13:08:42 GMT -5 bdbdbd said:

and Stevie Richards was getting the "he was awesome, and really oughta rise and kick some ass with the right breaks" talk from Ross and Foley last time he was on SmackDown.

So that's where he went wrong!

Seriously, none of them will be a big loss. I am a little surprised by Delaney though. He gets the crap kicked out of him for months, turns heel.....and then he's gone. I guess they saw more upside in Evan Bourne in the "small guy who can take out the giants" role.

I would love to see Stevie in TNA. And here's a thought - Give him a fuckin' mic and let the bastard do one of the best things he's got and TALK every now and then. If they let him do his goofy/hilarious character he perfected in ECW and give him another Blue Meanie-esque lacky, I'd be happy.

Or bring Meanie with him. I know Nova is retired but Meanie is still going.

Could always have him try to redo Raven's character, give Raven something to destroy if/when he comes back to TNA

[Mr. Dashbee]

I read somewhere that Stevie is going to Mexico. I'd love to see some ROH appearances for him. Too bad Punk's not there, they could finally pay off the angle from Bqack to Basics in Spring '05.

I'd imagine Stevie will do Mexico & indies in the US, then eventually sign with TNA or get resigned by the WWE.

I half expect the Highlanders to show up in TNA the moment they can.

[Byrntrigan]

Aug 15, 2008 13:55:08 GMT -5 Mr. Dashbee said:

I read somewhere that Stevie is going to Mexico. I'd love to see some ROH appearances for him. Too bad Punk's not there, they could finally pay off the angle from Bqack to Basics in Spring '05.

I'd imagine Stevie will do Mexico & indies in the US, then eventually sign with TNA or get resigned by the WWE.

I half expect the Highlanders to show up in TNA the moment they can.

Yeah, TNA sorta kinda owes at least Rory

[Lucky]

HAHAHAHA! FUCK YOU, COLIN! My nightmare is over! And it ended EXACTLY how I thought it would end 6 months ago. With WWE realizing they had a guy with no value who they booked like shit and just shoving him out the door.

I have no desire to see Stevie in TNA. I really don't get what people see in him. I mean, I liked him well enough as the comedy guy 10 years ago and he's a nice solid wrestler to have around. But there is nothing about him that made me want to see him get that push the internet was calling for him for the last year or two. I just don't get it with him. There's dozens upon dozens of people I'd prefer see get TV time if TNA wants another hand. And wow do I hate the idea of him doing Raven's character.

But I have less desire to see those talentless Highlanders in TNA.

This round of cuts is pure and simple cutting the fat in my book with them losing guys they have no use for and noone should be excited to see get free. But Colin cracks me up. As does Cherry considering they pushed her hard for quite awhile. But that's WWE.

[bdbdbd]

Aug 15, 2008 13:42:12 GMT -5 Byrntrigan said:

Or bring Meanie with him. I know Nova is retired but Meanie is still going.

Mostly off topic, but it reminded me of something. A few weeks ago on 24/7 they had the debut of Nova on ECW. It was back when he was the full on goofy tooly character, the crowd was shitting on it, he was wrestling (I think) El Puerto Ricano and they got interrupted. That's not the point, point is before they threw to the match the comedy team of Tazz and Styles made it quite clear that Nova, if not then than now, is not exactly a backstage favourite amongst the boys.

[Lucky]

Seriously, if the bWo shows up in TNA I might just start DVRing it and stop watching in real time. What a backwards and pointless step that would be. Maybe they could feud with the Prince Justice League!

[bdbdbd]

bWo + the reforming Wolfpac = the feud 1999 has been begging for!

[Andy]

Funny thing is, Stevie Richards isn't even his name. With a dull name like that I always just assumed it was his real name.

Perhaps Lloyd Van Buren will show up in TNA.

[gobshite]

If Stevie Richards wasn't his real name, and he's wrestled under that moniker in WWE since what, 2001, then I dare say WWE own it, and we'll never see "Stevie Richards" again...

I guess with this round of roster cuts, they can now afford to bring A-Train and Tomko back!!

[Moreofabreadguyanyway]

Tomko's become a more entertaining wrestler than almost all of the people they cut combined.

[Lucky]

I love to pick on WWE and I've found so many of their roster decisions insane over the years. But in the last 6 months or so they've added Killings, D'Lo, Sydal/Bourne, Colt Cabana, Natalya, and potentially Tomko and lost Moore, Nunzio, Richards, the Highlanders, Cherry, Not-Chris Harris, and Colin Delaney. So I'm pretty sure they've upgraded. Hell, I don't like Kofi but he's basically 10x more valuable as any one they've lost recently.

[Tommy]

They should have given Killings that gimmick (the Coffee gimmick) instead.

[Moosehead Jack]

Tomko HAS improved greatly since the WWE let him go, but what in the WWE's past history leads you to believe that if they brought him back he would be anything more than what he was before, and even a fraction of what he was in TNA?

Maybe I am missing something, so if I am fill me in.


And Lucky, Killings sucks.

[Tommy]

Aug 18, 2008 15:29:13 GMT -5 Moosehead Jack said:

Tomko HAS improved greatly since the WWE let him go, but what in the WWE's past history leads you to believe that if they brought him back he would be anything more than what he was before, and even a fraction of what he was in TNA?

Maybe I am missing something, so if I am fill me in.


And Lucky, Killings sucks.

Killings does not suck. You suck. Killings is good.

[Moosehead Jack]

suck like a fox!

wait, no, thats not right........

but Killings does suck. Really. I am hoping he and Jeff Hardy face off once, it will be the FLIPPIEST MATCH EVER!

[Pun]

Aug 18, 2008 15:30:01 GMT -5 Tommy said:

Killings does not suck. You suck. Killings is good.

YOUR FACE SUCKS! [/OpTard]

[Lucky]

Killings rocks and you're a racist.

I have no idea if WWE would use Tomko effectively although I'd think that the most logical place for him at the moment would be as Jericho's muscle and I think that would be a good short term role (even if its technically a step back) that could lead to the same place he was with in TNA. But really, the fact that he's got more talent and potential than any 1 or even 2 guys they've released makes it an upgrade. If you have $10 and I have $5, you have more. If you buy something shitty and overpriced with your $10 while I get a good deal on something with my $5 then I made the better use of my money. And maybe you both something really bad and made a really stupid decision that just squandered it. But you still started out with more.

Tomko is more valuable. Whether WWE does anything with him, who knows? I haven't seen D'Lo in weeks I think. But if he pops up on RAW tonight he has more value than the Highlanders did popping up last week.

[Moosehead Jack]

but does he really have any more value if they still don't DO anything with him? D-Lo that is

[Lucky]

Sure. Value is basically separate from what you do with it. Both of us have $1000 we have things of the same value. You invest it in stocks that yield 10x returns while I spend it on a rowboat despite my crippling fear of water? One of us spent wisely and one of us has a big dry canoe. What we turned that $1000 into aren't worth the same, but we started off in the same place.

Take for example a hypothetical situation in which a MLB team has one of the most highly touted prospects from a baseball rich area. His name is known by many fans including ones who don't follow minor leagues. He's had a great deal of minor league success and has been consistently been ranked amongst the top prospects in baseball. That team has something of value. Now, they can do a lot of things with him. They can give him a starting job and see if he converts that potential into results. That may or may not yield a positive return. They can trade him at his high value and get a known commodity in return, potentially risking him raising his value and them getting a bad deal in the end. Or they can stash him and risk his value depreciating and getting no return for him. They could even misuse him and kill his value.

Lots of things you can do with that value once you have it. WWE has D'Lo and whether they make him a jobber or make him WWE Champ he is basically much more valuable than Stevie Richards as long as we both agree he has more upside. Now, if WWE never attempts to utilize that upside and instead puts him in Stevie's role they're stupid and screwed up. But the trade off was still a win when it started.

[Moosehead Jack]

thats just it though, value is separated from what you do with it, to a point. On the surface the name D-Lo Brown is more valuable than any of those released at the moment, but the longer you don't DO anything with him, the more it is going to hurt the value of that name.

So right now, the WWE got a better deal with D-Lo over any of those guys, but the longer they keep trotting him out every three weeks for the HEY THAT'S D-LO, YAAAAY! pop, the more it is going to hurt his value.