[The Jewish Cunthead]

Make that 5 pitchers. Jesus H.

[punk/core]

That win was like the first chick I ever had sex with-- it was dirty, messy and not all that satisfying, but I guess I'll take it.

[Beer Baron]

Woo-hoo. At least the Doyers took one game at home. I didn't see any of the game. I heard about 2 innings on the radio and watched the end of the game via espn's slow ass gamecast. A win's a win, and what's ever better is that a win like that is a momentum changer. The Dodgers proved to themselves they can comeback against the Phills. And it showed to the Phills that their bullpen is not to be trusted.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

The M&MD reunion from today - good stuff.

www.wfan.com/topic/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=4097852

[Lucky]

I am deeply disappointed that the Yanks failed to win in the 10th not just for the obvious reason but also because HOLY FUCKING SHIT IS THIS THE STUPIDEST FUCKING THING I'VE EVER SEEN!

"The umpire made the correct call. The SS never touched the bag and the runner was safe. But a fair amount of time the umpire makes a bad call and gives that to the SS even though its incorrect. So despite the fact that the SS was careless and failed to step on the bag when he had plenty of time in the extra innings of a playoff game we should just give it to him anyway."

The argument might as well be "Napoli never actually recorded an out last night at home plate but got a neighborhood call which may well have screwed the Yanks out of a run. So the umpires should go ahead and do it again."

And if that had actually resulted in a win as a Yankee fan I'd never hear the end of it and I'd lose my mind trying to understand how people can tell me a CORRECT call was WRONG. As it is I'm just about to lose it just hearing these two morons on Fox insist it.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

Ugh. Mental mistakes, physical errors, a ton of guys left on base. When did the Angels turn into the Mets?

A-Rod's going to lead the Yanks to 6 more wins. Fuuuuuuck.

[Mikey]

Oct 18, 2009 2:27:54 GMT -5 The Jewish Cunthead said:

A-Rod's going to lead the Yanks to 6 more wins. Fuuuuuuck.

He's not a REAL Yankee though, so it doesn't count, right?

[Lucky]

[punk/core]

You don't have a 360! What do you know about achievements! Boooooo, Yankees boooo!

[The Jewish Cunthead]

Philly crowd to Manny: "YOU TOOK STEROIDS CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP"

Funny how they didn't say that to, oh I don't know, JC Romero.

[punk/core]

Yeah, no kidding.

Though I didn't even hear it because I turned the game off in the fourth inning.

[Beer Baron]

Oct 18, 2009 21:34:05 GMT -5 punk/core said:

Yeah, no kidding.

Though I didn't even hear it because I turned the game off in the fourth inning.

I turned it off by the 2nd or 3rd. Only checking in periodically. That was a wash. The Phills offense is pretty damn good, and the Dodgers always seem to find themselves down 2-0 after the 1st inning. Hopefully by scoring 11 runs the Phills won't cross the plate that often for the next couple of games. Wishful thinking indeed.

[Lucky]

What's this bullshit about a 4 PM game? A 1 PM start on local time? Of course Philly gets the prime time spot. Typical.

[Jack Quinn]

In this case, I actually agree. When there is a west coast game, it should be the late game and the east coast game should be the early one. That was my complaint last week when the Philly game was a 2 pm start so they could have game 1 of the NY-Anaheim, in NY game at 8

[The Jewish Cunthead]

In theory yes but I don't think they're allowed to play a day game right after playing a night game.

[Jack Quinn]

fuck them. Take off your skirts and play baseball!

[Lucky]

A) Game 1 should be on primetime. This is just obvious to me. Its the first game of the series. Game 1 and 7 is primetime, period.

B) As said, Phils and Dodgers played until late into the night last night. Buying them a few extra hours when the Yanks and Angels had the day off makes absolute sense.

C) With the Yanks playing in Anaheim and the Dodgers playing in Philly you have two choices. Start the Angels at 1 PM local to put them on at 4 EST and do the Phillies at 8 or do the Phillies at 4 local and the Angels at 5 local. Neither is good for the local crowd. Doesn't it make sense to make the local game primetime locally for at least ONE of the games? 4 PM may be more convenient for Anaheim fans but how much more convenient is it than 1 PM? Is it really worth inconveniencing Philadelphia?

Bottom line, someone is going to get screwed. That is inevitable. Despite common belief to the contrary sometimes its even the Yankees and their fans who get the bad deal. That's life.

[Mikey]

Nobody gets screwed with late afternoon playoff baseball every now and then.

Oct 19, 2009 15:28:18 GMT -5 The Jewish Cunthead said:

In theory yes but I don't think they're allowed to play a day game right after playing a night game.

Oh, and this is kinda silly considering that both teams would be playing under the same short rest or whatever. Ideal, no, but it's fucking baseball - not basketball or let alone football or hockey.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

A - blame it on TBS who didn't want to go up against the late football games yesterday but didn't mind being matched up against Sunday Night Football. Fuck TBS, I hope they got a shitty number last night.

B - I'm pretty sure the union fought for that in the latest CBA.

C - did Vlad just do something in the playoffs? Holy shit.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

I'm following this on GameCast since I can't stream the audio anymore but with a runner on 3B and the 9th place hitter on deck, why wouldn't you just walk the next guy to set up the DP?

[DevSop]

Oct 19, 2009 18:00:09 GMT -5 The Jewish Cunthead said:

I'm following this on GameCast since I can't stream the audio anymore but with a runner on 3B and the 9th place hitter on deck, why wouldn't you just walk the next guy to set up the DP?

The main reasons I can think of include the fact that I think the Angels have some speed at the bottom of their line-up so a double play would be tough. The bottom of the lineup sucks more than the top and if you walk the 8th to get the 9th hitter and the 9th hitter strikes out instead of hitting into the DP, you have a much tougher at bat with the leadoff hitter up and two men on instead of the 8th hitter and man on third.

Assuming a DP always seems like a bad idea because you're setting the other team up for a possibly big inning.

[Lucky]

Exactly. There's no guarantee of a double play with Izturis and Aybar even if you get the ball you want. If you don't get the DP you bring up the top of the order. Meanwhile you're putting the go ahead run on base. Runner on 3rd with 1 out, he should score if the hitter does his job. So setting up the double play in that situation probably runs more risk than it the odds that it works out how you want. The game was probably going to be tied at that stage. Try to avoid it, but don't make things worse over managing because a tie isn't the end of the world.

EDIT: Not to mention Izturis is a basestealing threat so you're forced to hold him on. Point is, at that stage in the game you manage to what is likely to happen. Not what happens if everything turns up your way. To get that double play and no run your pitcher needs to throw the right pitchers, your fielders need to make the right plays, the runners need to do what you want, and the hitter needs to fail to put the ball in the air or through a hole. And if all that happens you still don't just need a double play, you need a hard hit, cleanly fielded double play ball that allows you to turn it quicker than Ayber gets to 1st. Its a lot of ifs. Try to get out of it, deal with the tie, score again.

[punk/core]

That actually burned much, much more than yesterday.


Well, I'm done with baseball. At least basketball season starts soon.

[Mikey]

Good lord...

[Beer Baron]

That game reminds me of what Roddy Piper used to say, "Just when you think you know the answers, I change the questions." That one hurt real bad. And the funny thing is, I somehow knew it was going to happen.