I mean, look. I defended the Benoit trade on the grounds that Byrne was happy so it was fine. But I'm not a fool. I KNOW I made out on that and got Benoit for way under market value. But the Low Ki-for-Santo/Guerrero criticism just came from people not "getting" Serg's fed. And hey, I didn't quite "get" it either but clearly those were guys he wanted. And they were guys I wanted enough to trade around to steal from him. It was just a case of me wanting Ki more and him wanting them more. Still feels like a perfectly fair trade in my mind. No needed rationalization like the Benoit move.
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Post by Mr. Dashbee on Mar 25, 2009 16:02:41 GMT -5
Yeah, they're a moron.
OR they're drafting late in the round and worried about someone getting snagged. Then they counter with something like a 2 & a 3 for a 2 & a 5, or a 2 & a 4.
Do you really think I expected to get it for my 2 & my 13? No. I expected someone--if they wanted to move up--to counter offer and negotiate.
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Yeah, so was the horrible Benoit trade. But that's okay... I expect Lucky to completely forget who I am. :-P
Not that I was gonna rock that boat but I didn't remember drafting Benoit...
It would amuse me if next year Byrne did a women's fed or Texas fed. I'd just like to see how he tries to make it a dark, demonic, ECW homage led by James Mitchell or Raven. -- Lucky, 2009
see. i told you byrne was the way to go here. like i said, he's a big dork. -- Ziggy, 2009
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Post by Byrntrigan on Mar 25, 2009 16:38:48 GMT -5
oh yeah, I remember now. and I was the one with the kickass idea that got me Dancin' Stevie Richards!
It would amuse me if next year Byrne did a women's fed or Texas fed. I'd just like to see how he tries to make it a dark, demonic, ECW homage led by James Mitchell or Raven. -- Lucky, 2009
see. i told you byrne was the way to go here. like i said, he's a big dork. -- Ziggy, 2009
He wanted Heyman to lead his ECW revival and I helped him work out some modified version of the story he wanted to do using Tom Gordon or Shane or Don Callis or something. Not sure anymore. But it was basically.
Lucky: I'm trying to get Benoit from Demko but he wants ____ from you. Is he available? Byrne: If you can get Heyman from Demko. Lucky: I can't, anything else I can do? Byrne: I really want Heyman. Here's the story I want to tell. Lucky: If you draft _____ can't you just do the story like this? Byrne: Yeah, good idea. If you can get me that pick I'm in.
I never really thought it was a "kick ass idea", just a solid replacement for his story that wasn't going to happen without Heyman. And during that whole negotiation I was going to give someone Mike Awesome but for some reason whichever one of them it was decided at the last minute they didn't need Awesome and I could keep him. So who was I to argue?
Which is how Dev guilted me into trading Awesome and Sunny to him by spending days insisting how much I had screwed people and how unfair it was and how I should help him tell his story because someone else helped me.
But thinking back I still think Byrne was the one "screwed" in that deal. He got Stevie and 1 pick which I think he used for Gordon. Demko got like 7 picks in the deal. Maybe not an even deal but seemingly a better return than Byrne. Or maybe not. Who the hell remembers?
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Post by Byrntrigan on Mar 25, 2009 16:51:42 GMT -5
Demko had decided to do an extreme ECW like feud, and I had already taken Paul E. so he wanted a figure head. I had toyed with drafting Todd Gordon to run a seperate "You fucked us over" faction in my "ECW" against Paul E. but traded the idea to Lucky, for Stevie Richards, and Lucky got Benoit for like a 13th round pick.
But I got Stevie Richards for an idea, which I later coined as a "kick ass idea" and that phrase has lived on sense.
Eventually we should just make a Goofapedia for here. I'd volunteer, but I've only been here for a year, and there'd be alot of proofreading errors and typos ;D
It would amuse me if next year Byrne did a women's fed or Texas fed. I'd just like to see how he tries to make it a dark, demonic, ECW homage led by James Mitchell or Raven. -- Lucky, 2009
see. i told you byrne was the way to go here. like i said, he's a big dork. -- Ziggy, 2009
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Post by Byrntrigan on Mar 25, 2009 17:05:00 GMT -5
No. You were rather close. I already had Heyman, but other then that you were spot on...
It would amuse me if next year Byrne did a women's fed or Texas fed. I'd just like to see how he tries to make it a dark, demonic, ECW homage led by James Mitchell or Raven. -- Lucky, 2009
see. i told you byrne was the way to go here. like i said, he's a big dork. -- Ziggy, 2009
Eventually we should just make a Goofapedia for here. I'd volunteer, but I've only been here for a year, and there'd be alot of proofreading errors and typos ;D
And then, of course, I'm sure about 15 people would jump down your throat because OO did it first, or something. :-P
So, you are lumping me in with this because I traded Lo-ki for Santo y Gory? The fact that you think that's a ridiculously uneven trade is on you, not me.
I never traded anything for a "kick-ass idea." Razz me about holding up the draft in an doomed attempt to get Mitchell if you want, but please leave me out of any "kick-ass idea" ribbing all right?
Maybe someone should just ask Dev if he's going to have his list ready tomorrow or cause another day of waiting after someone "fucks" him by picking someone more than 1 person liked. Tit for tat and all that.
Eventually we should just make a Goofapedia for here. I'd volunteer, but I've only been here for a year, and there'd be alot of proofreading errors and typos ;D
And then, of course, I'm sure about 15 people would jump down your throat because OO did it first, or something. :-P
Is that before or after 15 people say what an awesome and original idea it is and how its stuff like that which makes this place awesome and so much better than that dead piece of shit board OO?
Honestly, I'd mock it because the Wankipedia was a self indulgent venture, but it was one done for a MUCH larger messageboard with MANY more posters and WAY more posts over quite a few more years. And a board with a notoriously useless search function and a lot of turnover. Where as most running jokes on this board never die, most happened with the same dozen or so posters, and all can be found very simply with a very good search function that allowed me to find that trade in just a few seconds. So if we were really stuck it would have been easy as anything to solve and a big glossary of stories with just be more circle jerking from a board that really loves doing that.
So I'd call it what it is. A largely unnecessary and self indulgent circle jerk. Because if you really want the details of that story?
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OR they're drafting late in the round and worried about someone getting snagged. Then they counter with something like a 2 & a 3 for a 2 & a 5, or a 2 & a 4.
Do you really think I expected to get it for my 2 & my 13? No. I expected someone--if they wanted to move up--to counter offer and negotiate.