[The Canadian Content]

Dashbee's Iron Team: Iron Man, Leonardo, Human Torch, Hellcat, The Drummer, Warpath

Byrne's Operation Elemental Force: Aquaman, Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner), Static, Silver Surfer, Super-Skrull, Iceman

Vote up, bitches. Poll closes Wednesday at 4:30 Eastern.

[Lucky]

I don't trust Skrulls. Or Aquaman.

[Batman]

I don't love having a skrull on a super-hero team, but better than a turtle.

[The Canadian Content]

Super-Skrull's a good guy these days. I thought it was an awesome move by Byrne.

The Drummer seems like the kind of character I'd love, but Stark's douchiness hasn't fully gone away yet, and I have no idea how Leonardo would work with this team. Stark doesn't tend to work in the shadows.

I'm with Elemental Force here.

[Lucky]

He may be a "good guy" but isn't he still a mass murdering and deceitful bastard who once led the most fearsome and disgusting army in galactic history?

Nope. I don't trust him.

And Aquaman totally balances out Iron Man's douchiness.

[Deleted]

Operation Elemental Force

[salmonjunkie]

When did Super-Skrull become a good-guy? He's the reason I wasn't going to vote for OEF, but before I make any rash decisions, I need to know this but of information.

[The Canadian Content]

He turned during Annihilation, I believe. He helped Nova during Secret Invasion and took out a shitload of Skrulls.

[Lucky]

I don't know. Only heroic thing I see in his wiki is him helping to stop the universe from ending and helping Nova out of a jam. If there's more Wiki doesn't seem to say but that doesn't say "hero" or "good guy" to me. Just "sane enough to not want the universe to be destroyed" and "noble enough to return a favor." He actually seemed to rejoin the Skrull army during Invasion even if he appeared to do it in part to help Nova get past them and to Earth. I have no idea if he stuck with the Skrulls or it was 100% ruse or what. But I got the impression he was just helping out someone he respected and owed, not turning his back on an evil society.

[Lou]

I can't vote for a team called Operation Elemental Force.

[salmonjunkie]

So Super-Skrull is a race traitor, then?

[The Canadian Content]

Yeah, pretty much.

[salmonjunkie]

Ok, well, this one's hard. You two are gonna have to make cases as to why I should vote for your team.

[Habs]

Apr 13, 2009 14:29:21 GMT -5 salmonjunkie said:

Ok, well, this one's hard. You two are gonna have to make cases as to why I should vote for your team.

This

[Byrntrigan]

Apr 13, 2009 12:48:27 GMT -5 Lou said:

I can't vote for a team called Operation Elemental Force.

I couldn't come up with something better, as each team has Operation ala the Alpha and Beta Flight comics, and each guy is a master of the elements of some kind.

Silver Surfer - Once of the universes most powerful heroes he sacrificed himself to protect his home-world. Able to harness the power cosmic he leads a team of heroes that can fight anywhere and be viable and successful.

Green Lantern - Kyle Rayner not only saved the GL Corps from extintion he is also considered on of the most powerful GL's as he has learned to not only affect anything that is yellow, but his "hard light constructs" (the crap he makes with the ring) is any color he chooses, so he can use stealth in fighting in a way his compatriots could not. He also as an artist has devised very clever weapons that have confused and defeated many power adversaries. Oh, he was a God for awhile as well.

Aquaman - King of Atlantis he has shown power of not only telepathically calling and "influencing" sea creatures but also can do the same to anything that has evolved from the sea, so homo sapiens qualify. He is also singularly strong as long as he is near water, ala Namor. He also controls a hand of living water and a spear that he can project out.

Iceman - A man that can encase his entire body in rock hard ice, and create weapons and projectiles out of ice as well as control moisture. An original X-Man member.

Super Skrull - perhaps a race traitor, but turned his back on his own people to help earth against the Skrull invasion. Has the power of all 4 members of the Fantastic Four so is not only extremely strong, but very flexible and controls fire. he also can hypnotize people as well beyond his Fantastic 4 powers.

Static - Controls the power of electromagnetism as well as electricity. Can also use electricity to his will, and can do things such as take over radio and TV waves to project his voice etc.

As he can control electro-waves he can also disrupt the human body and brain as well as protect them from people who manipulate brainwaves.


Each member compliments the team as well as lends their powers to be complimentary to other members.

Imagine Iceman hitting you with a ice wave, Static electrfying the ice, and then Super Skrull stretches around you and uses his fire to steam the ice so fast that it cooks you.

And well shit, Silver Surfer and GL can then just have their way with you.

Or my favorite visual of Silver Surfer surfing on an ice wave.

[Mr. Dashbee]

Apr 13, 2009 14:29:21 GMT -5 salmonjunkie said:

Ok, well, this one's hard. You two are gonna have to make cases as to why I should vote for your team.

Small problem, I'm comic illiterate. So...you should vote for me because I gave a Ninja Turtle the chance to shine on his own (or fail, but at least he gets the chance) and because I found a cool ass character in The Drummer, who I had never heard of before.

I mean, how cool are these powers...

Described at one point as an "informational black hole," The Drummer possesses superhuman abilities that relate to computer systems and information in general. He can read and manipulate information without a conventional computer interface and apparently has a physiological connection to surrounding information sources (such as radio waves, electronic signals, hard drives, etc.) He also acts as a living anti-surveillance device; cameras and recording devices fail to operate when in proximity to his person. Drums can also read and manipulate magic, comparing it to cheat codes in video games by saying that magic is 'the cheat codes for the world'. In the series' final few issues, it was shown that Drums could 'see' an even broader spectrum of information, ranging from small things like temperature to, perhaps most notably, genetic information.

[Lucky]

I feel like helping GB out. And questioning some of these iffy claims I see.

Apr 13, 2009 16:49:50 GMT -5 Byrntrigan said:

Green Lantern - Kyle Rayner not only saved the GL Corps from extintion he is also considered on of the most powerful GL's as he has learned to not only affect anything that is yellow,

Wait, he LEARNED to affect yellow? Parallax left the Power Battery so the weakness was gone. Period. Right? Kyle had nothing to do with it. He was just the lucky enough to be the dude who got the only ring once it stopped being vulnerable to yellow. And now can't EVERY ring affect yellow?

Aquaman - King of Atlantis he has shown power of not only telepathically calling and "influencing" sea creatures but also can do the same to anything that has evolved from the sea, so homo sapiens qualify.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Ok, Wiki supports your interpretation if only barely (he's apparently used his telepathy on sea gulls so "in theory" he could work it on humans) but c'mon. No one's buying that Aquaman can control humans or even dogs, are they? He's one of those "I got a touch of telepathy but not enough to actually do anything cool with it" characters. "Just enough so that certain writers can blow smoke when they want to make me cooler."

Super Skrull - perhaps a race traitor, but turned his back on his own people to help earth against the Skrull invasion.

Seriously, did he really do this? I JUST read Invasion and I neither saw him turn on the Skrulls nor help Earth. He helped Nova. First to evade capture (in which he killed a few Skrulls) and then to get to Earth past the Skrull fleet (in which he pretended to kill Nova). But didn't he then rejoin the Skrull army and thus theoretically JOIN the invading forces against Earth? Did I just miss a comic? Besides, I don't actually remember Nova doing anything to help save Earth so his "betrayal" wasn't even that important as best as I could tell.

Did I just miss a comic or a page or something?

Imagine Iceman hitting you with a ice wave, Static electrfying the ice, and then Super Skrull stretches around you and uses his fire to steam the ice so fast that it cooks you.

That hardly seems heroic. Besides, couldn't the Human Torch just do that all on his own with all the hoopla and coordination?

Or my favorite visual of Silver Surfer surfing on an ice wave.

Why would he do that?

[Byrntrigan]

Because he hates you Lucky.

That's why.

[Lucky]

Well I don't know what his logic behind that would be. I don't care if he does pointless things. Heck, its not like I've read more than a couple of Silver Surfer comics in my life anyway so I'd probably not even notice what that dude is doing unless he decided to do it in an FF comic. But if he feels the need to "surf on ice" I'm just going to have to assume he got high before hand.

Which would explain why he's teaming with the most evil and ruthless Skrull in the universe.

[Byrntrigan]

Hodgey, how are we doing tie breakers?

[Deleted]

I don't think we're going to need a tie-breaker in Round 1. There should be enough Wild Card spots to just take the ties and move them on.

But we will definitely need to figure that out for later rounds.

[The Canadian Content]

Tiebreak here matters for seeding. Solly has agreed to break this one. He chooses Operation Elemental Force due to his undying love for Aquaman.

[Byrntrigan]

Thanks bruddah!