[Lucky]

Keeper Rules

• Each owner may keep 5 players total.
  
• The first 5 rounds of each draft are protected and those players can not be kept.
  
• Each Keeper costs a draft pick based on where he was drafted. The pick moves up 2 rounds every season, including the first. Ex: A 13th round draftee would cost an 11th round pick in his first year as a keeper.
  
• Any Keeper not drafted is treated as a final round draftee. Ex: In a 27 round draft an undrafted Keeper will cost a 25th round pick.
  
• A player loses Keeper elligibility the season after costing a 1st round pick and reenters the draft pool (unless franchised).
  
• All rules apply regardless of owner. If a Keeper is traded or released his new owner picks up where the last left off.
  
• If the Keeper Cost occurs in a round where the owner has 2 picks (due to trade) he is penalized his original pick, not the acquired one, regardless of placement.
  
• If the Keeper Cost occurs in a round where the owner has traded out his original pick but acquired a 2nd he will be penalized that pick. Cost will not move up a round unless there are no more picks in that round. If there are 2 picks, neither original, he will lose the lowest.
  
• If the Keeper Cost occurs in a round in which the owner has no more picks then the price moves up one round, but will be considered its original round for the sake of longterm keeper cost. Ex: A 13th Round cost with no 13 round picks then costs a 12th round pick. For the purposes of next year's Keeper Cost, however, it will be considered a 13th Round pick. The next year the keeper will cost an 11th Round pick, not a 10th.

Franchise Rules

• Each owner may designate one of his 5 keepers a full Franchise Keeper (F1) and 1 a partial Franchise Keeper (F2). He does not have to do either.
  
• A F1 full Franchise Keeper may be kept without cost of any draft pick.
  
• A F2 partial Franchise Keeper may be kept at half the cost of a regular keeper. He continues to cost a draft pick but it only elevates 1 round each season.
  
• A player may be Franchised as many times as his owner wishes.
  
• Once a player has the Franchise tag taken off of him he can no longer be kept and reenters into the draft pool.
  
• All rules apply regardless of owner. If a Franchise Keeper is traded or released his new owner picks up where the last left off.

Keeper	Owner	Drafted	'09 Cost	'10 Cost
Grady Sizemore (CF - Cle)	Vols	Rd 6, '06	F1	F1
Joe Mauer (C - Min)	Army	Rd 6, '06	F1	F1
Ryan Howard (1B - Phil)	Moose	Rd 6, '06	F1	F1
Geovanny Soto (C - CHC)	Pun	Rd 7, '08	F1	F1
Nick Markakis (OF - BAL)	GM	Rd 8, '07	F1	F1
Brandon Philips (2B - CIN)	Vols	Rd 8, '07	F2 - Rd 6	F2 - Rd 5
Dustin Pedroia (2B - BOS)	Solly	Rd 8, '08	Rd 6	Rd 4
Brandon Webb (SP - Ari)	Lucky	Rd 9, '06	F1	F1
Adam Wainwright (SP - STL)	Army	Rd 9, '07	F2 - Rd 7	F2 - Rd 6
Jon Lester (SP - BOS)	Mike	Rd 10, '08	F1	F1
CC Sabathia (SP - Cle)	AA	Rd 11, '06	F1	F1
Matt Holliday (LF - Col)	Solly	Rd 12, '06	F1	F1
Dan Haren (SP - Oak)	Dev	Rd 12, '06	F1	F1
BJ Upton (CF - TB)	Grover	Rd 12, '07	F1	F1
Kevn Youkilis (1B, 3B - BOS)	MKid	Rd 12, '08	F1	F1
Scott Kazmir (SP - TB)	Solly	Rd 13, '06	F2 - Rd 11	F2 - Rd 10
Chad Billingsley (SP - LAD)	Dev	Rd 14, '07	F2 - Rd 12	F2 - Rd 11
Matt Garza (SP - TB)	Army	Rd 14, '08	Rd 12	Rd 10
Scott Baker (SP - MIN)	Army	Rd 14, '08	Rd 12	Rd 10
Aaron Harang (SP - Cin)	Vols	Rd 15, '06	Rd 11	Rd 9
Justin Morneau (1B - Min)	Army	Rd 15, '06	Rd 11	Rd 9
Russell Martin (C - LAD)	GM	Rd 15, '07	Rd 11	Rd 9
Curtis Granderson (OF - DET)	GM	Rd 15, '07	F2 - Rd 13	F2 - Rd 12
Joey Votto (1B - CIN)	Mike	Rd 15, '08	Rd 13	Rd 11
Stephen Drew (SS - ARI)	Grover	Rd 15, '08	Rd 13	Rd 11
Mike Pelfrey (SP - NYM)	Dev	Rd 16, '08	Rd 14	Rd 12
Chris Young (SP - SD)	Lucky	Rd 17, '06	F2 - Rd 15	F2 - Rd 14
Ervin Santana (SP - LAA)	Grover	Rd 17, '08	Rd 15	Rd 13
Troy Tulowitzki (SS - COL)	GM	Rd 20, '07	Rd 16	Rd 14
John Danks (SP - CHW)	MKid	Rd 21, '08	Rd 19	Rd 17
Chien-Ming Wang (SP - NYY)	MKid	Rd 23, '06	Rd 19	Rd 17
Brian McCann (C - Atl)	Solly	Rd 24, '06	Rd 20	Rd 18
Jonathan Papelbon (RP - Bos)	MKid	Rd 24, '06	Rd 20	Rd 18
Justin Verlander (SP - Det)	GM	Rd 26, '06	Rd 22	Rd 20
Cole Hamels (SP - Phil)	Moose	Undrafted, '06	Rd 23	Rd 21
Hanley Ramirez (SS - Fla)	Mike	Undrafted, '06	Rd 23	Rd 21
Alex Rios (OF - Tor)	Lucky	Undrafted, '06	Rd 23	Rd 21
Dan Uggla (2B - Fla)	MKid	Undrafted, '06	Rd 23	Rd 21
Daisuke Matsuzaka (SP - Bos)	Mike	Undrafted, '06	Rd 23	Rd 21
Carlos Marmol (RP - CHN)	Pun	Undrafted, '07	Rd 23	Rd 21
Tim Lincecum (SP - SF)	AA	Undrafted, '07	Rd 23	Rd 21
Josh Hamilton (OF - STL)	AA	Undrafted, '07	Rd 23	Rd 21
Eric Byrnes (OF - ARI)	AA	Undrafted, 07	Rd 23	Rd 21
Yovanni Gallardo (SP - MIL)	Lucky	Undrafted, '07	Rd 23	Rd 21
Ryan Braun (3B - MIL)	Lucky	Undrafted, '07	Rd 23	Rd 21
Joba Chamberlain (RP - NYY)	Grover	Undrafted, '07	Rd 23	Rd 21
Cory Hart (OF - MIL)	Grover	Undrafted, '07	Rd 23	Rd 21
Jay Bruce (CF, RF - STL)	Moose	Undrafted, '08	Rd 25	Rd 23
Edison Volquez (SP - CIN)	Moose	Undrafted, '08	Rd 25	Rd 23
Alexei Ramirez (2B - CHW)	Moose	Undrafted, '08	Rd 25	Rd 23
Carlos Quentin (LF - CHW)	Solly	Undrafted, '08	Rd 25	Rd 23
Max Scherzer (P - ARI)	Mike	Undrafted, '08	Rd 25	Rd 23
Clay Buchholz (SP - BOS)	Vols	Undrafted, '08	Rd 25	Rd 23
Jacoby Ellsbury (CF - BOS)	Vols	Undrafted, '08	Rd 25	Rd 23
Cliff Lee (SP - CLE)	Pun	Undrafted, '08	Rd 25	Rd 23
Armando Gallaraga (SP - DET)	Pun	Undrafted, '08	Rd 25	Rd 23
Ricky Nolasco (SP - FLA)	Pun	Undrafted, '08	Rd 25	Rd 23
Evan Longoria (3B - TB)	Dev	Undrafted, '08	Rd 25	Rd 23
Nat McLouth (OF - PIT)	Dev	Undrafted, '08	Rd 25	Rd 23
Ryan Doumit (C - PIT)	AA	Undrafted, '08	Rd 25	Rd 23

2009 Can't Keep List
These 60 players were drafted in the first 5 rounds of the 2008 draft, and thus could not be kept in 2009.

1. Alex Rodriguez (3B - NYY)
2. Johan Santana (SP - NYM)
3. Jose Reyes (SS - NYM)
4. David Wright (3B - NYM)
5. Miguel Cabrera (3B - DET)
6. Chase Utley (2B - PHI)
7. Jimmy Rollins (SS - PHI)
8. Aramis Ramirez (3B - CHN)
9. Jake Peavy (SP - SD)
10. Albert Pujols (1B - STL)
11. Carl Crawford (LF - TB)
12. Prince Fielder (1B - MIL)
13. Alfonso Soriano (LF - CHC)
14. Vladimir Guerrero (RF - LAA)
15. Carlos Beltran (CF - NYM)
16. Ichiro Suzuki (RF - SEA)
17. Mark Teixiera (1B - ATL)
18. David Ortiz (DH - BOS)
19. Victor Martinez (C - CLE)
20. Brian Roberts (2B - BAL)
21. Lance Berkman (1B, RF - HOU)
22. Carlos Lee (LF - HOU)
23. Adam Dunn (1B, LF - CIN)
24. Bobby Abreu (RF - NYY)
25. John Lackey (SP - LAA)
26. Roy Oswalt (SP - HOU)
27. Carlos Zambrano (SP - CHC)
28. Derek Jeter (SS - NYY)
29. Manny Ramirez (LF - BOS)
30. Roy Halladay (SP - TOR)
31. Garrett Atkins (3B - COL)
32. Torii Hunter (CF - LAA)
33. Chipper Jones (3B - ATL)
34. Felix Hernandez (SP - SEA)
35. Travis Hafner (DH - CLE)
36. J.J. Putz (RP - SEA)
37. Rafael Soriano (RP - ATL)
38. Derrek Lee (1B - CHC)
39. Francisco Rodriguez (RP - LAA)
40. Ian Kinsler (2B - TEX)
41. Carlos Guillen (1B, SS - DET)
42. Joe Nathan (RP - MIN)
43. John Smoltz (SP - ATL)
44. Mariano Rivera (RP - NYY)
45. Javier Vazquez (SP - CHW)
46. Takashi Saito (RP - LAD)
47. Adrian Gonzalez (1B - SD)
48. Chone Figgins (3B - LAA)
49. Jose Valverde (RP - ARI)
50. Billy Wagner (RP - NYM)
51. Michael Young (SS - TEX)
52. Brett Myers (SP - PHI)
53. Ben Sheets (SP - MIL)
54. Trevor Hoffman (RP - SD)
55. Todd Helton (1B - COL)
56. Edgar Renteria (SS - DET)
57. Hideki Matsui (LF - NYY)
58. James Shields (SP - TB)
59. Matt Cain (SP - SF)
60. Kenji Jojima (C - SEA)

[Lucky]

Of mild note, 22 of the 60 keepers are new to '09 from '08.

Although oddly enough only 21 of those 22 are "Rookie Keepers." Ervin Santana becomes the first player in C&B history to be made a keeper, let go, and then made a keeper again. I drafted him in the 22nd in '06 and Mike kept him for free in '07, but he was cut loose for '08. Grover now keeps in '09 at the slightly higher price of a 15th RDer after drafting him in the 17th.

[Mikey]

Feb 2, 2009 18:57:07 GMT -5 Lucky said:

I drafted him in the 22nd in '06 and Mike kept him for free in '07, but he was cut loose for '08. Grover now keeps in '09 at the slightly higher price of a 15th RDer after drafting him in the 17th.

Yeah. fuck Ervin Santana.

[Grover]

I remember being routinely verbally attacked and insulted for doing so, as well.

[Lucky]

I was going to mock you because its actually pretty interesting. Santana would have cost a 20th Rder '08 and an 18th in '09. Grover ended up taking him 3 Rds before where it would have cost, and still more expensive than he'd be running this season as a 3rd year keeper.

But as I recall I traded him to you all in a grand scheme to score my super awesome keeper... Adam Jones. So I got no leg to stand on.

[DevSop]

Adam Jones is so much better than my awesome Pelfrey and Kendrick for Kazmir trade.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

I'm pretty sure nothing is beating Rich Hill for a 2nd rd draft pick.

[Sparty]

Too bad AA couldn't keep Rafael Soriano.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

HAHAHAHAHA!

[Attitude Adjuster]

You know, Gimmick's the only one who can take that shot at me. I just ask: Solly, how many titles have you won?

[The Jewish Cunthead]

Just one. Remember when the league was named "FSol's Bitches"?

It wasn't because of my whining.

[Lucky]

Yeah, but in fairness that shit ain't in my OFFICIAL league history.

I mean, I could sit here and go "Yo, I'm the 2 time Regular Season champion and all time playoff and regular season W leader!" But I know enough to know that's meaningless in sports trash talking.

[The Jewish Cunthead]

That's my legacy goddamn it! It's either that or be known as the mook who dropped Hanley Ramirez.

[Jack Quinn]

good decision there.

[Attitude Adjuster]

Feb 3, 2009 0:47:12 GMT -5 The Jewish Cunthead said:

Just one. Remember when the league was named "FSol's Bitches"?

It wasn't because of my whining.

That's like winning a wrestling title in Rio de Janeiro.

[Pun]

Feb 4, 2009 0:13:07 GMT -5 Attitude Adjuster said:

Feb 3, 2009 0:47:12 GMT -5 The Jewish Cunthead said:

Just one. Remember when the league was named "FSol's Bitches"?

It wasn't because of my whining.

That's like winning a wrestling title in Rio de Janeiro.

Or the OOWF.