[eliasvict]

I guess it goes here yes?

Anyway I enjoyed the show. Wasn't great but I wasn't FFing through it.

I still hate Joe, just less tonight. I will always pull for Angle over Joe. Always. Who could hate a guy so dedicated to his sport he considers his own separation a blessing for its removal of his "high maintenance" wife.

I just noticed tonight, Bubb...er...Brother Ray is like, not a Southern boy, he's got a serious New York accent. Didn't he used to wear the Stars and Bars on his head?

I know I will get flamed for this but I like Rokakhan. I like her more than Kaz, Robert Roode, both Motor City Machine Guns, the entire Rock 'n' Rave Connection and "Maple Leaf Muscle." I mean really, Maple Leaf Muscle? Is that any kind of nickname?

One last thing. I have noticed this disturbing trend of crowd shots in TNA often including some very fucked up looking people. Tonight there was a guy with two teeth out of ten and in past weeks I have seen some real hillbilly lookin' fuckers. Who are they letting into the Impact Zone?

Anyway, not sure how many TNA fans are aorund here but...thought I'd start up a thread.

[Byrntrigan]

eliasvict said:

One last thing. I have noticed this disturbing trend of crowd shots in TNA often including some very fucked up looking people. Tonight there was a guy with two teeth out of ten and in past weeks I have seen some real hillbilly lookin' fuckers. Who are they letting into the Impact Zone?

Anyway, not sure how many TNA fans are aorund here but...thought I'd start up a thread.

I'm a TNA wanker, so that's like, you, me, & Lucky so far...

And from what I know, they let ANYONE from universal Theme Park in , for FREE.

Don't have to worry about selling tickets that way.

And not to disparage our fine Southerners here, but it's not like the 'E doesn't have UGLY fucking fans too. They just don't allow them on camera...

[salmonjunkie]

I am also a TNA fan.

BTW, if Riot Act stays on here, he better change his av to Curry Man. Otherwise I will.

[Mr. Dashbee]

I'm a big TNA fan, but I have DirecTV and live in Arizona, so Impact comes on before I leave work. The DVR is in the bedroom, and my wife usually goes to bed before me. Great planning, I know.

[murgen]

I wasn't a fan of TNA in the beginning. The weekly PPVs and Jeff Jarrett turned me off at first. But, then I got into RoH, and saw a lot of those guys were on TNA's roster, so I decided to give it a chance. I have definitely become a fan. And then they brought Curry Man in. And, now I'm a bigger fan.
I haven't watched this week's episode yet...With a new Smallville and Reaper on last night, Impact will have to wait for the weekend.
But, having read the spoilers, it does look entertaining.

[Pun]

dxb said:

I'm a TNA wanker, so that's like, you, me, & Lucky so far...

And now you have another new sig image!

[eliasvict]

Curryman was pretty over with the crowd too. Even though it was mainly made up of retards.

[ALL CAPS]

dxb said:

I'm a TNA wanker, so that's like, you, me, & Lucky so far...

Hey! I'm here too! I just never post. Wank wank wank.

Also shill: www.daddymonkeylives.com/commentary/tnadestinationx08.html

[DevSop]

Former TNA Hater, now a complete TNA mark...and Lucky, if you show up here, I think the Lacey av needs to show up for a few more weeks, dont you?

[Byrntrigan]

admin said:

dxb said:

I'm a TNA wanker, so that's like, you, me, & Lucky so far...

And now you have another new sig image!

Horray! I wonder how long people accuse me of kissing your ass, or that we are the same people.

Either way, Thanks. I seriously feel at home here (much faster then at OO - but that is probably due to my slow ass posting pace there) No dig on OO though...

[Byrntrigan]

eliasvict said:

Curryman was pretty over with the crowd too. Even though it was mainly made up of retards.

But Elias-

Think of it like this: TNA Impact Zone fans may be retards, but unlike the WWE fans, they don't HAVE to pay to see the show, and it's better

[Jack Quinn]

yeah really, how retarded do you have to be to actually spend your hard earned money on watching John Cena? That should be the sole question to quality between retarded and not retarded.

"Would you pay hard earned money to watch John Cena wrestle?" "Yes." Ok, over to the short bus then please.


Yeah I am a total TNA wank too, I heart Joe

[The Jewish Cunthead]

mooseheadjack said:

yeah really, how retarded do you have to be to actually spend your hard earned money on watching John Cena?

You mean like at Wrestlemania? Oh wait, that was Flea's hard-earned money. My bad.

[Byrntrigan]

mooseheadjack said:

yeah really, how retarded do you have to be to actually spend your hard earned money on watching John Cena? That should be the sole question to quality between retarded and not retarded.

"Would you pay hard earned money to watch John Cena wrestle?" "Yes." Ok, over to the short bus then please.

After that answer Moose,

I [glow=red,2,300]heart[/glow] you

Forgot to add, EXALT!

[Tommy]

fsolomon75 said:

mooseheadjack said:

yeah really, how retarded do you have to be to actually spend your hard earned money on watching John Cena?

You mean like at Wrestlemania? Oh wait, that was Flea's hard-earned money. My bad.

People are gonna start to wonder why I exalt you so much.

[firebreakerchip]

I am so glad that they are doing this separation bit with Kurt and Karen. It actually seems like they will be focusing on the title and Joe's instead of the usual hijinx. A great way to write out Karen and move things along. It is this type of progression and storytelling that WWE is missing.

Angle/Kaz was a great bit of story and psychology. As Kaz demonstrated great fighting spirit hitting Angle with everything he had. Angle did a great job of selling and making me believe Kaz is actually go to win the match. I loved the finish because it illustrates the power of the AngleLock and that Kaz just made one mistake. The ending lends Kaz a great deal of in-ring cred now that he has taken Angle to the limit twice on Impact and he feels like he belongs.

Team 3-D joining AJ/Tomko is an okay decision in my book. I just feel like Devine is not ready yet if he is supposed to be the 5th member of the team. The rumors I hear for Cage's team makes me very giddy for this match. At the same time, I am pissed. Normally, a TNA PPV in Lowell, MA a short drive would be automatic. However, I am stuck in fucking Michigan missing out on a show I would be so pumped to see live. College is teh suxxorz~!

Curry Man, LAX, and Scott Steiner make me one happy camper. I am weary of this whole Steiner/Petey initiation business. It doesn't seem like it will have a very interesting payoff.

Overall a very good showing with a mixture of story advancement and in-ring action. I am just bumming that I won't be able to go to Lockdown.

Lastly, I am glad that I found this site. Thanks for Pun for having an alternate wrestling board as OO is the only I have ever frequented and have always loved the conversations among the OO members. I hope OO is restored, but if it is not I am glad to have some place to go to discuss, praise, and bitch about wrestling.

[salmonjunkie]

It's the kid! Welcome smite!

(ah fuck, I'm all out of smites right now)

[Lucky]

Lethal Lockdown is 4 vs 4. Devine is just around as the lacky he is. It appears to be Tomko, AJ, D-Von, and Bubba and I'm very fine with that. Team 3D are as good as anyone to plug in there and it makes a lot more sense for Tomko to make a deal with some big thugs then to find some way to convince Roode to join so that Cage can get Booker to join and so on. Now no feuds get disrupted and the Dudleyz get put in a position they're good at. I think they've delivered well for the last 6 months and its because they've been constantly booked in hardcore matches, matches that allowed for lots of antics, or something wacky like the Fish Market Street Fight. They're playing to their strengths and this keeps up that run.

Plus, it keeps us from getting a Team 3D vs Survivor Dude/Some poor bastard who has to carry the replacement for Basebrawl. At least for 1 month. I worry that he'll get shoved into Lockdown, but hell. If he does its still better than having him in a tag match and an argument might be made that he's not much worse in there than Nash.

My guess (and its pure guess as I've completely avoided spoilers, even if I suspect TNA is keeping these ones tight to the vest considering the live Impact) is that Nash isn't around next week due to the attack. Tomko has his full team and Cage has noone. They spend the week selling that, maybe book Cage into getting his ass beat, and go into the live show with no team members. Another segment with Rhino where Cage wants to talk and Rhino doesn't would be nice. Then the live show we get Rhino coming to his aid from a beatdown and Sting's return. The 4th guy I really don't know. I figure there are 3 options. 1 is Nash surprisingly "healthy." 2 is Survivor Dude. 3 is Jarrett.

It feels like Lockdown is being built to be something special. TNA is in the NE for the first time for a PPV and I'm sure they want to see the attendance and sales go up and secure some standing up here after they did so well in NY. Joe vs Angle at the top of the card. They spent Impact basically making it ALL about the match. Joe with a straight forward promo about Lockdown and then he goes home. Because he has ONE thing in mind. Angle with the hilarious acceptance of his seperation so that he can have ONE thing in mind. And Joe HAS to win this. So then for the 2nd main event they give us Sting AND Jarrett with both making the big surprise returns at the live Impact. Feels big to me.


I dug the show. I LOVED the Christian/Rhino segment. Seriously, how fucking awesome was that? TNA dug up continuity from a year ago from a feud that was based on years old continuity. And it was written PERFECTLY. Cage needs an ally so he goes to an old friend. But he expects his anger and disgust and doesn't insult him. Just "I've been telling people to be men and settle things face to face. We have to talk." Rhino with the PERFECT response because he wants nothing to do with Cage and is outright insulted that he'd even ask to talk. It was just so damn perfect.

Rest of the show was fun. I'm enjoying TNA and I'm 1000x more interested in Lockdown than Wrestlemania.

[firebreakerchip]

The rumors I read must be old or wrong because they listed Lethal Lockdown as 5 vs. 5. I haven't read the spoilers so I cannot be sure of what is truly happening. In the rumor, I was referring to, they had Devine listed as the fifth man so I am relieved that he is not in the match. I like Devine, but he is not ready yet.

I am just not psyched at the prospect of a Lethal/Dutt feud. I just don't like Dutt and can't bring myself to care about him. TNA needs to flush out the X-Division badly there just isn't a whole lot interesting about it right now in regards to that division. However, it is nothing a talent raid on ROH and PWG can't fix though. I would actually drop Kaz down and have him run with the belt. I think it will bring him and the belt back up.

[Batman]

luckylopez said:

Jarrett.

Yeah, it's time. A couple of years ago, I wanted him to go away and never come back, and I would have said that I would never buy him as a face.

But "absence . . ." and all that.

[Lucky]

Yeah, I think we're finally at a place where Jarrett can come back and be welcome. We might have been there 6 months ago or whatever, but point is noone I've said "Jarrett" to has reacted badly. And I think it can play big. Going into that live Impact with no spoilers, but people expecting Sting. Because we are gonna expect Sting. For awhile now Sting and JJ have been the guys we think of when there's a surprise man. But after Sting comes out to then realize that's only 3 and to have JJ come out? Could genuinely catch us off guard and be a cool moment. And then the two of them backing up Cage in the Lockdown really goes to sell the Lethal Lockdown. Four former NWA/TNA World Champions. The Icon, the King of the Mountain, and the Instant Classic on the same team. It immediately shifts the balance from the heels.

And honestly, if Jarrett isn't up to being back full time I think doing it just to make Lockdown special would be enough. But I also think JJ AND Sting could be served well to work special attraction schedules.

Speaking of which, Bound For Glory = Joe vs Sting. Have Joe take the title at Lockdown and then maybe give Angle the rematch the next month. King of the Mountain with Angle, AJ, Cage, and Tomko. Then for 2 or 3 months while AJ vs Angle is below the title do Cage vs Tomko fighting for the shots at Joe. Joe vs Tomko, Cage vs Tomko, Joe vs Cage vs Tomko. Then AJ gets the shot at Joe. When all of Joe's peers have been defeated and he's had a 6 month run. And have him beat Steiner too, maybe do a Booker match, and have him give title match opportunities on Impact to guys like Kaz, Lethal, Roode, Storm, and Petey. Not true title contenders but guys who Joe can give a chance to and have a good-great match with before beating and showing that he's not only a fighting champion but one who gives opportunity and beats EVERYONE. Then, with all his peers defeated and with Joe heading to BFG as more than just a World Champion but something special... introduce Sting. Joe's biggest test vs the Icon, on the BFG stage where Sting has challenged for the World Title twice and won it twice. That's Sting putting Joe over right.



Chip, I haven't read spoilers and rumors. All I know is that Cornette said 4 man teams and TNA's website says 4 man teams. And 4 man held their arms up at the end of Impact and Devine wasn't one of them.

[Batman]

Re Joe killing everybody:

That sounds awesome and I hope they do exactly that. But . . .

What do you do after that?

[Byrntrigan]

Brian Pillman angle with Sanjay Dutt stabbing Joe's ass and taking the title.

Brings a new facet to the Dutt character, no?

[Lucky]

After Joe's had a 6 month reign of killing everyone? And then goes over Sting? I dunno. At that stage losing the belt wouldn't seem to hurt him in the slightest and any of these guys he beat months earlier can take the belt from him. If you don't want to do that you can bring Angle back in the mix (since he would have been out of it for months) or bring Jarrett into it. By then you may have more contenders too. Lashley? RVD? Someone currently on the roster who rose up like Kaz, Storm, Roode, or Lethal? Not to mention that Booker still wouldn't have gotten a real main event run.

Joe doesn't have to kill people and make them look inferior. I don't want Goldberg or what he did to the majority of the X Division. I want what he did with Daniels and AJ. Beat them time and time again but also showed that they could keep up with him and that the loss was coming some day. Or what Angle has done with Kaz by selling for him and letting him take Angle down. Kaz has been shown to be able to go with Angle, and even if he's 0-2 if they fight enough he WILL win. He's shown he's capable of it. So if you do that with Joe none of the guys he beat in '08 are damaged and can't come back to challenge him and even beat him.

If you can plan for the next 6 months I don't think you have to plan for the year. Once you get closer to BFG then you look at your layout and figure it out. Actually, now that I think about it you can do it like this.

April - Joe wins title
May - Joe defends successfully against Angle
June - King of the Mountain
July - Sept - Joe defends successfully against Cage & Tomko
Oct - Joe defends successfully against Sting
Nov - Jan - Joe defends against AJ

And if AJ wins the title from Joe in January I'm A-Ok with that. A 10-11 month reign for Joe where he was booked as strong as anyone has been and then AJ, a man he's been in a million matches with, FINALLY beats him for the first time. And after he spent the summer and fall beating Angle, Cage, & Tomko he's now a legitimate main eventer and he can have a nice run. And if Lashley, Jarrett, RVD, or anyone else is in the mix by then, you can adjust. And again, Booker is still left out in the cold.

Point is, we all know AJ vs Angle is coming. So follow up on that story and keep the rest of those 5 guys (who should be the 5 KotM guys) working with each other logically. Tomko and Cage hate each other and both want Joe. Then, after Sting you still have AJ, Booker, Rhino, Abyss, Jarrett, a host of current midcarders, Angle, and any newcomers.

For all we know in 4 months Rhino & Cage will be feuding with Tomko & Bernard. Lashley will be teaming with Angle as his new backup. Mistico will be tearing up the X Division. Sting and Jarrett will be back. ROH will be invading and Danielson will be kicking people's asses. RVD & Sabu will be tearing down the house. "American Gladiator" Matt Morgan will be a player. Who knows? TNA is in a state of flux. Trying to imagine what it will be doing 6 months from now is tough.

[Batman]

I just want to clarify, I didn't mean that in the sense of "Oh my god, he'll make the whole roster look like such schmucks, what will they do?" I'm a big believer in booking some guys really strong. If you do it right, just getting in a little offense on the guy makes you look like a million bucks, even though you lose the match. Like with Angle and Kaz.

I meant more, once Joe's done all that, what's left for him? But you're right, so much can change, who knows what will be on the horizon by then?

luckylopez said:

Point is, we all know AJ vs Angle is coming.

That's a very good point, thanks for reminding me. That's a great example of having a simmering issue that doesn't involve the title just waiting for the champ to deal with once it's time for him to drop the belt. Maybe they can set Joe up with something like that when the time comes.