[The Jewish Cunthead]

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[Deadly]

Easiest vote ever. Fuck Cyclops.

[Jack Quinn]

Jan 18, 2013 1:14:25 GMT -5 Deadly said:

Easiest vote ever. Fuck Cyclops.

bastard stole my gimmick

[DevSop]

Sigh.

[Demko]

Dev, I'm a comic fan as much as the next guy, but even I've gotta agree. Fuck Cyclops. He's always sucked as a character, and he's even WORSE as a leader.

[DevSop]

Then you haven't read comics in 10-15 years. The improvements Cyclops has made starting with Whedon's run on Astonishing and then leading into everything after has been great and he's a much better character at this point than 98% of the X-Men. And I'd put him a step below Cap when it comes to good leaders in the entire Marvel U. He's better than Iron Man, better than Wolverine, and probably on par with Reed.

[Sportsguy]

"Do you like Huey Lewis and the News?"

[Habs]

I'll give Cyclops a vote here. I have to agree with Dev at some level, he's better then what people give him credit for. I don't have a man-crush the way Dev does, but I think it's just fashionable to hate Cyclops and that's why people hate him.

But Bateman is no small opponent here either.

[DevSop]

Yea, I actually get the Bateman votes here as he's a great character. It's the "Fuck Cyclops" that makes me sigh.

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Jan 19, 2013 14:18:28 GMT -5 DevSop said:

Then you haven't read comics in 10-15 years. The improvements Cyclops has made starting with Whedon's run on Astonishing and then leading into everything after has been great and he's a much better character at this point than 98% of the X-Men. And I'd put him a step below Cap when it comes to good leaders in the entire Marvel U. He's better than Iron Man, better than Wolverine, and probably on par with Reed.

For once, Dev and I agree completely. Sure he's been a royal asshole, but he's been a badass royal asshole. With steamrolling through the post-Civil War Marvel universe books over the last few months, I really love how complex his character became.