Post by Jack Quinn on Sept 11, 2007 11:08:10 GMT -5
a girl can dream right?
The Phillies are everything I hoped the Mets would be - a team that plays their fucking asses off for all 27 outs. They're never out of a game. Solly 10/20/09
Don't get me wrong -- I'm not trying to claim Modell isn't a complete and utter douche. I'm just saying that there was no stadium to be had by him in Cleveland, and had he kept the team there, they wouldn't be the Ravens' current personnel in (if possible) uglier uniforms.
I know you weren't defending Modell. And there was fault on both sides (the city and Modell) as to the stadium debacle. But Modell never gave the city a fair chance for the stadium to be built, as evidenced by the fact that the financing for Cleveland Browns stadium was approved shortly after the move was announced. Modell got in a snit about the new Gateway complex that housed the Injuns and Cavs. He shut down talks with Cleveland and later worked on the plans to move the team. The city never got the chance to make a counter offer to the Baltimore move. There was a stadium to be had, but not under the circumstances he demanded.
Would it have been different if he had not moved the team? Would the Browns have won the SuperBowl? Hard to say. He got money in Baltimore, but he could have gotten the money in Cleveland as well. The end result was the same – due to bad spending on his part he eventually had to sell his stake in the team. The big difference is that his move erased all the good he had done for the NFL and pretty much guarantees he won’t get into NFL Hall of Fame any time soon, perhaps not ever. Due to some oddball rules the city where an owner spends the majority of his career give the speech nominating someone for the Hall of Fame. Every year that Modell’s name comes up a Cleveland representative give the speech, and each year they start it out “We cannot nominate Modell for the Hall of Fame”.
How do a Hoser know so much about the Browns situation, anyway?
the Cowboys are not winning that division, nor are they going deep into the playoffs.
Which division are they in, again? Same one as the Iggles and the Gnats? Who else is in there... Let me see... TEH POWAR HOUSE REDSCINZ! OMG! The Cowboys certainly don't stand a chance against a hobbled McNabb, the Worlds Biggest QB and some guy in Washington.
The Cowboys are fortunate to be in the division that is the heir apparent to the NFC North for overall shittiness. I honestly can't see them losing a division game, and not because COWBOYS ROCK, but because the rest of them aren't about to begin rocking.
Post by Jack Quinn on Sept 11, 2007 13:24:26 GMT -5
a hobbled McNabb > a healthy Tony Romo
The Phillies are everything I hoped the Mets would be - a team that plays their fucking asses off for all 27 outs. They're never out of a game. Solly 10/20/09
Post by The Canadian Content on Sept 11, 2007 13:32:54 GMT -5
loki said:
How do a Hoser know so much about the Browns situation, anyway?
Well, I'm a Bengals fan to start, so anything that happens in that division makes me take notice (see, for example, the Houston fucking Oilers becoming the Tennessee slightly-less-fucking Titans).
After that, I'm a 30-year-old football fan. I'm aware of the fact that Cleveland, LA, and LA used to have teams.
Also, I grew up just across the lake from Cleveland, and we got their FOX affiliate, so it was either Browns/Steelers games or Bills games on TV every week.
Odd, that up until Sunday, McNabb hat thrown for 10 TD's, 0 INT's and had a perfect record against the Pack. Meanwhile Tony Homo lit up the Gnats. The window for McNabb closed last year. The Eagles are too old and broken down to make much of an impact. Seriously.
Post by Jack Quinn on Sept 11, 2007 13:45:55 GMT -5
Special teams sucked, but they will get batter. And really, Romo lit up the GIANTS, like THAT is any kind of accomplishment.
The Phillies are everything I hoped the Mets would be - a team that plays their fucking asses off for all 27 outs. They're never out of a game. Solly 10/20/09
The Phillies are everything I hoped the Mets would be - a team that plays their fucking asses off for all 27 outs. They're never out of a game. Solly 10/20/09
How do a Hoser know so much about the Browns situation, anyway?
Well, I'm a Bengals fan to start, so anything that happens in that division makes me take notice (see, for example, the Houston fucking Oilers becoming the Tennessee slightly-less-fucking Titans).
After that, I'm a 30-year-old football fan. I'm aware of the fact that Cleveland, LA, and LA used to have teams.
Also, I grew up just across the lake from Cleveland, and we got their FOX affiliate, so it was either Browns/Steelers g@mes or Bills g@mes on TV every week.
Steelers, Browns, Bills - and you grow up a Bengals fan. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Especially condering the Bengals teams you grew up with sucked worse than Paris Hilton.
Post by The Canadian Content on Sept 11, 2007 14:04:23 GMT -5
I grew up hating the Bills, especially, because they were literally on every week. The Browns weren't good enough to get that treatment, so there was some variety.
I'm a Bengals fan because of Esiason. Plain and simple.
Post by Jack Quinn on Sept 11, 2007 14:04:50 GMT -5
a typo from me? NO!
From the looks of things they were eating deep fried cheese or whatever the cuisine in Green Bay is. Special teams will get BETTER. In the end, its still Tony Romo, and he sucks. <insert Tex gay joke here> Advantage Philadelphia
The Phillies are everything I hoped the Mets would be - a team that plays their fucking asses off for all 27 outs. They're never out of a game. Solly 10/20/09
Post by williamssl on Sept 11, 2007 14:12:27 GMT -5
mooseheadjack said:
a typo from me? NO!
From the looks of things they were eating deep fried cheese or whatever the cuisine in Green Bay is. Special teams will get BETTER. In the end, its still Tony Romo, and he sucks. <insert McNabb's cock up my pooper> Advantage Philadelphia
Post by Jack Quinn on Sept 11, 2007 14:20:54 GMT -5
yeah really Tex, come on, you can do better than that. I know I expect better from you. Pretty soon you will be heading into Sop OMG MOOSE LIKES MORE THAN ONE TEAM territory
The Phillies are everything I hoped the Mets would be - a team that plays their fucking asses off for all 27 outs. They're never out of a game. Solly 10/20/09
Post by williamssl on Sept 11, 2007 14:29:58 GMT -5
I was trying to make Solly jealous. I guess the only thing that's gonna make him jealous is if I say "Moose has more shiny pennies than Solly. Up his ass."