Post by The Canadian Content on Sept 9, 2007 10:38:35 GMT -5
Sorry, Loki. As much as I'd like to see the Browns pull off the upset, it just ain't gonna happen. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see the Browns go 0-6 in the division. The other three teams are just far too strong.
So, uh, the baseball playoff start soon! Let's go Tribe! And as that winds down basketball season - with the defending Eastern Conference Champion Cavaliers - will start.
Words fail me in describing how awful that was. I left the bar after the score was 17-0 and heard it got worse.
Wow. What I wouldn't give for a real football team.
Post by Jack Quinn on Sept 9, 2007 23:11:47 GMT -5
loki, I am asking this as a fan, and not to rub it in, because I think it was a bullshit move, but how bad does it hurt watching the Ravens and knowing that that probably should have been the Browns team, and the Browns winning the Super Bowl?
I know for me it would be crushing. It would be like (and follow me into fantasy land here) the Phillies relocating to Oklahoma City and suddenly becoming really good and winning World Series titles. Meanwhile MLB gives us an expansion franchise in Philly, the Phillies, and they play like, well basically like the Phillies.
Yeah, that would suck
The Phillies are everything I hoped the Mets would be - a team that plays their fucking asses off for all 27 outs. They're never out of a game. Solly 10/20/09
Post by williamssl on Sept 10, 2007 6:50:17 GMT -5
creepyjackalopeeye said:
There's some room on the Cowboys bandwagon. Of course, the Cowboys rarely fail to disappoint, so you'd probably be jumping off just as quick.
1-0 at the expense of the now 0-1 Giants? Best part of Sunday. (note to self: Smite Solly for every one of the overly-predictable Romo pics he posts in response to this; try to enlist Creepy to do the same)
Or: Who are the Cowboys Browns eyeing with the Browns' #1 overall pick next year?
Post by The Canadian Content on Sept 10, 2007 7:30:05 GMT -5
Moose, I think part of your argument doesn't work because the Ravens got a new stadium and a huge influx of cash when they moved. Had they stayed in Cleveland, they wouldn't have had the cash to build the D that they did, and they wouldn't have won the Super Bowl.
I don't think that you can call it a "bandwagon". I think the name for jumping on with the Cowboys should be as gay as Romo. Strapping on the chaps or something.
There's some room on the Cowboys bandwagon. Of course, the Cowboys rarely fail to disappoint, so you'd probably be jumping off just as quick.
1-0 at the expense of the now 0-1 Giants? Best part of Sunday. (note to self: Smite Solly for every one of the overly-predictable Romo pics he posts in response to this; try to enlist Creepy to do the same)
Or: Who are the Cowboys Browns eyeing with the Browns' #1 overall pick next year?
Fixed
My boss is a big Giants fan. He got an Eli jersey for Christmas last year from his son and without thinking I said: "You know what you can do with that jersey? You can wipe your ass with it." The look on his face reminded me that, although he might like crappy football teams, he's still my boss.
And I totally forgot about the Browns #1 pick going to us. Sweet, sweet, sweet. It would be even more sweet if Brady Quinn sucked balls (Well, on the playing field. He probably already sucks balls in real life).
And I smited that exalt away.
Is it so hard to imagine? Is it so hard to believe? Something so outrageous, something so far-fetched, well how 'bout Adam and Eve?
Post by The Jewish Cunthead on Sept 10, 2007 15:15:48 GMT -5
williamssl said:
1-0 at the expense of the now 0-1 Giants? Best part of Sunday.
Fuck off. I can't even take a moral victory of scoring 35 points in Dallas or that Eli had a decent game. Eli and Jacobs are hurt and we'll be lucky to win 6 games.
"You were part Canadian as soon as your dick took up permanent residence in Moosejaw." - Hoodge
"and 29 Fingers, what the fuck is that shit? Who wrote a song about your anal world record set at the Stuckeys just outside of San Diego?" - Moose
"But yeah, I'd rather stick my dick in a dead guys asshole then watch Anchorman again." - Creeps
Post by Jack Quinn on Sept 10, 2007 15:52:52 GMT -5
you would have been lucky to win 6 games with a HEALTHY Eli and Jacobs. Welcome to a top 5 pick next year. Not necessarily a bad thing. I wonder if Marvin Harrison or LT has a less talented little brother the Giants can draft?
And, you know what this means right? If injuries derail the season, Coughlin will be back next year as the coach
The Phillies are everything I hoped the Mets would be - a team that plays their fucking asses off for all 27 outs. They're never out of a game. Solly 10/20/09
loki, I am asking this as a fan, and not to rub it in, because I think it was a bullshit move, but how bad does it hurt watching the Ravens and knowing that that probably should have been the Browns team, and the Browns winning the Super Bowl?
I know for me it would be crushing. It would be like (and follow me into fantasy land here) the Phillies relocating to Oklahoma City and suddenly becoming really good and winning World Series titles. Meanwhile MLB gives us an expansion franchise in Philly, the Phillies, and they play like, well basically like the Phillies.
Yeah, that would suck
Oh, it hurt. But honestly, the Ravens SB victory is only one piece of it. Looking at just that is like looking at a guy who was crushed in a car accident and asking “So, how’s that paper cut you got?”. The Browns being allowed to move – including the betrayal by all but one or two of the NFL owners – stung the city. Cleveland and football were synonymous. I know it’s tough to remember back that far, but moving the Browns out of Cleveland would have been like moving the Cowboys out of Dallas or the Steelers out of Pittsburgh. It was a complete and utter shock. There was also the four horrible years in a football. The pathetic excuse for a team we’ve had since 1999. The awarding of the new Browns to one of the people who helped Modell move in the first place. Belichick - who up until Butch Davis came along held the title of most hated Browns coach in history - leaving Cleveland, modifying his coaching philosophy and becoming the head of the powerhouse Patriots while winning 3 SBs along the way. The complete decline of the Browns-Steelers rivalry.
The fallout can still be felt to this day. Cleveland football used to be fun. A giant community event. But when the Browns came back the fanbase changed. There were (and still are) a number of people that were extremely bitter about the whole thing that left and didn’t look back. Add to that how the “new” ownership group and GM didn’t care for the blue collar crowd that normally comprised Browns fans and took a number of steps to forcibly change the fan base at the stadium to more of a white collar crowd (with more money). That killed, or at least severely muted, a good chunk of the prior fan base. I get why they did it, but the forcible maturing of the Browns fanbase had the net effect of making us indistinguishable from, well, most other football fans. And it served to further cut the heartstrings between the city and the team. A lot of the passion is gone. Maybe it will come back when the Browns get good again.
psychofish said:
Moose, I think part of your argument doesn't work because the Ravens got a new stadium and a huge influx of cash when they moved. Had they stayed in Cleveland, they wouldn't have had the cash to build the D that they did, and they wouldn't have won the Super Bowl.
Eh, that’s a matter of debate. Modell was given every opportunity to sell his ownership in the team before he moved (Modell was the majority owner, but not the only owner of the team. When it was crystal clear he was going to move, two of the major-minority owners dumped their stock rather than take part in Modell’s scheme). He wound up selling his stake in the team after he moved to Baltimore, anyway. What you’re glossing over is that Modell’s financial problems were largely of his own making. He didn’t have a side business generating income (like nearly every other owner did) and he made bad, bad business decisions. Plus, one of the reasons he moved was spite – he was pissed at the city of Cleveland because the city had built the Indians and the Cavs new places to play but hadn’t given the Browns a new stadium.
Post by The Canadian Content on Sept 10, 2007 21:47:20 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong -- I'm not trying to claim Modell isn't a complete and utter douche. I'm just saying that there was no stadium to be had by him in Cleveland, and had he kept the team there, they wouldn't be the Ravens' current personnel in (if possible) uglier uniforms.
Russell has signed. Biggest deal in the history of the planet for a rookie. That means we can expect to see him near the end of the year, depending on the record.
Raiders will crush you all in 2008.
Wait a second, the Browns and the Cowboys swapped places in the '08 draft? Jesus Christ... The Cowboys will probably win their division and go deep into the playoffs. The Browns are the Browns.
Post by Jack Quinn on Sept 11, 2007 10:58:06 GMT -5
the Cowboys are not winning that division, nor are they going deep into the playoffs.
The Phillies are everything I hoped the Mets would be - a team that plays their fucking asses off for all 27 outs. They're never out of a game. Solly 10/20/09