Isn't there already an entire forum for comic books?

Can we prove Thor is gay?

Certainly.

Do we need flawless logic?

No.

LOOK AT HIM! HE IS SO INCREDIBLY GAY THAT HE MAKES GREEN ARROW WITH POINTY HAT AND GOATEE LOOK STRAIGHT.

Lucky to Serg in the "RIP Prez Ford" thread:



Here you go:



There you are, Lucky! The excuse you needed! Temp ban Serg!

Smite for you, because I alwas ask myself "WWJD", and Jeb would smite you.

Philadelphia County (essentially the Philly metro area)- 80.4% Kerry. Just to support your discussion.

Eh, it's better if I let you imagine whatever you want at this point.

I have no idea what you do in your basement.

Bada Bing!

Chris when you go huntin for hogs, snag me one. I want some wild pork chops

Loki,

Oh, I agree. Global Warming is a fact, it's a fact because climate cycles are real deals. The issue that has yet to be resolved is the overall impact man has had on the current cycle.

The main report he has taken care of is the 2001 UN report that is extensively quoted as the authority on the man made element of climate change. Does that mean it's time to go back to the drawing board? Yes. That's what science does.

What bothers me the most about what is going on, and has been mentioned by others who are not at all me, is this strange religion like aspect to environmentalism. Crichton (he of Jurassic Park) did a couple of speeches on that subject, which I recommend. I'd exerpt, but there is a strict no exerpting policy.

I do admit that I have a bias and like it confirmed. However, certain things that I have read over the years go far beyond a simple bias against tree huggers. Manipulation of scientific data to push a political agenda just irks me. When I see at least two instances of willful ignorance of specific items, it brings the rest of the theory into question.

The specific corruption I was referring to was a combination of my memories of the ’94 Dems and the current Ohio GOP.

To wit: The 94 Dems were convinced of their own superiority. Their arrogance was overwhelming, and they believed the rules didn’t apply to them. I remember the check kiting scandal, and how a number of the Dems caught up in it were shocked that people had a problem with what they did. And the “punishment” was a joke - nothing more than a slap on the wrist and a “naughty naught!” finger wave. They were a party more interested in keeping power than in actually doing the jobs they were elected to do.

In that aspect, this current group of Republicans is much the same way. They honestly didn’t believe the rules applied to them. Delay is one of the more gregarious examples – he was up on ethics charges, and instead of actually admitting his guilt the GOP blamed the people who accused him of violations and redid the ethics board with people who wouldn’t find him guilty. The Foley scandal is an even better example – a man who is in charge of young boy volunteers on the Hill who is having questionable and very creepy relations with them. And he’s gay, to boot.

The Ohio GOP – you already know about Ney. And Bob Taft is the first Ohio governor to be convicted of commiting a crime while in office. The secretary of state, Kenneth Blackwell, was involved in shady dealings with Diebold (the voting machine company) at the same time as Ohio was having all sorts of voter fraud issues (some of which were connected with the new machines).

There were other examples, too, but these should be enough. There were members of the GOP on both the state and federal level that were corrupt. There were others that were not corrupt but turned a blind eye to those that were. This was doubly damning to the GOP, because they marketed themselves as a values party. Part of their base trusts them with that. They look at the Dems as a moral vacuum but at the GOP as filled with people they can trust. And people like Delay, Taft and Foley stomped all over that. To add to that, people like Delay and Taft are leaders within the party (sadly, others who aren’t corrupt – like Linc Chaffee and Mike DeWine - paid the price).

You and Krydor made good points, too, that dovetail into the argument. Please note, I’m not saying that the entire GOP or all the conservatives are corrupt. But enough of them, and enough of the ones in power, were questionable enough to drag the entire party down.

Just to clarify - and in fairness to Jeb who is not OOver here to talk about it - it was a very civil and funny discussion we had.

ZING!



edited to add:

Yahoo News

This is kind of a carryover from the other board, yet a tangent that I think needs a separate thread.

Anywho



Here's ACORN's homepage

Now, it's good that ACORN has disavowed these tools and fired them. The problem I have is that there were some folks faking voter registrations and found ACORN to be a decent facilitator of the fraud. Every application these four took in should be considered questionable, which means there are probably some voters who will be illegitimately disenfranchised.

No, we need Rambo to use exploding arrows on all kinds of stuff. Rambo is known for killing Asians and Communists, therefore he is perfect for the job.

I really don't see the point of discussing these things on both boards.

Unless we're allowed to be racist ignoramuses on this one. Let's nuke those yellow bastards back to wherever it is they came from! It's like STAR WARS but more effective!

Israeli and Palestinian scientists are also working together to form permaculture centers, mainly for the Palestinians. I've worked with both groups, and I can say there is quite a bit of hope if politicians weren't there to inflame feelings.